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Sartorial odds & ends

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by novalis, Nov 2, 2004.

  1. novalis

    novalis Senior member

    Oct 19, 2004
    New York
    I noticed two odd little details recently.

    (1) Suit breast pocket with a flap. While perusing the latest issue of Los Angeles Magazine, I saw a picture of a fellow wearing a SB peaked lapel suit with a flap on his breast pocket. Merely eccentric or has this been done before?

    (2) Number of sleeve buttons on a suit. I saw an election photo (I think it was Kerry) which showed 5 buttons on his sleeve. Well within normal bounds or unusual?
  2. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Apr 20, 2002
    In Hiding
    1) Flaps over breast pockets are sometimes placed on tweed jackets or heavy country suits (shooting coats, etc.).  They look out of place on business suits.

    2) Five sleeve buttons is too many.  Jacket sleeves generally take four buttons.  Some Italian makers (but not many any more) like to use three.  There is an English tradition for sports jackets to have two buttons, spaced one button width apart (like a three button sleeve with the middle button missing).  Brooks Brothers picked this up many years ago and used to finish a good deal of its suits this way.
  3. Mark Seitelman

    Mark Seitelman Senior member

    Oct 26, 2004
    New York City
    [​IMG] I heard that Prince Charles has 5 buttons on his blazer. I know a clothier who has 5 buttons. He's a bit of an eccentric and a character. Generally, 5 is unusual and is reserved for princes and eccentrics.
  4. retronotmetro

    retronotmetro Senior member

    May 5, 2004
    and unsuccessful Democratic presidential candidates.
  5. Nonk

    Nonk Senior member

    Oct 22, 2004
    Prince Charles may wear 5 buttons due to his position as Prince of Wales, and connection to the Welsh Guards.

    The British Guards Regiments wear their uniform buttons in groups to indicate which Regiment they are and their seniority, Grenadier Guards single button, Coldstream Guards in twos, Scots Guards in threes, Irish Guards in fours, and Welsh Guards in fives.

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