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Sartorial mythbusting

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by apropos, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. George

    George Senior member

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    I've recently inherited a couple of Edward Sexton coats from an uncle. I wish he'd taken advantage of Sexton's versatility to encourage less pronounced roping at the shoulder. I can't look at these without thinking of one of those little girl blouses with the big puffy sleeves. I put one on and have this feeling that people must think I'm wearing wings ... like some angel from a 1930s movie vision of heaven.
    You have inherited some Sex....ton? Tell us more.
     
  2. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Matt, please do keep in mind that the problem that I, and a number of other tailors have with A&S is not a question of side taking, nor a conspiracy against drape. With your Rubinacci or Vox's Steed stuff, it is a matter of taste, where it is like arguing whether French or Italian cuisine is best. To get to the point of discussing taste, there has to be a minimal level of competency - a competency that A&S fail to demonstrate. They make mistakes that the better home sewers on my forum wouldn't make. This is what Des Merrion wrote about the above A&S I showed:

    I can assure you that this was not written out of professional jealously, as any honest and competent tailor would say the same thing.

    It is a shame that this sort of informed critique is ignored, and that every time you point out yet another glaring objective technical fault in an A&S, it too is dismissed as being a subjective question of taste. The end result is that A&S become a ridiculous sacred cow too holy to criticise. Worse still, anyone who dares to take the hegemony on is instantly demonised, and accused of running a subjective hate campaign.


    Recent update...they jail people for the most ridiculous reasons in the UK, and leave many unjailed who should be.

    Three years? I mean, Des prefers structure, but come on...

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  3. AndrewRogers

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    Recent update...they jail people for the most ridiculous reasons in the UK, and leave many unjailed who should be.

    Three years? I mean, Des prefers structure, but come on...

    - B


    Sham trial to shut up a man who saw the truth.
     
  4. Tomasso

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    I tried to catch up with this thread around 30 pages back but then I ran into an Ivy League jerk circle which made me spit up............But at least it shut up the state school guy ............
     
  5. tailorgod

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    Aren't we still waiting for better pics of whnay's coat?
    If his tailors fixed the little fit problems it should be absolutely perfect now...
     
  6. tailorgod

    tailorgod Senior member

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    This is (maybe) the weapon of mass destruction he was trying to "smuggle":

    [​IMG]
     
  7. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    This is (maybe) the weapon of mass destruction he was trying to "smuggle":


    In your opinion as a tailor yourself (but I assume not a felon), would it still be possible to make a £30,000 Supreme Bespoke suit in jail, assuming the fabric and findings are smuggled in?

    Supreme Bespoke is sewn entirely by hand. No sewing machine necessary.

    As for the three years, it seems to me that the British would have done better to imprison Gordon Brown for three years, but that is another matter.


    - B
     
  8. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    I tried to catch up with this thread around 30 pages back but then I ran into an Ivy League jerk circle which made me spit up............But at least it shut up the state school guy ............

    Insomnia?

    Cable TV subscripton lapsed?


    - B
     
  9. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Aren't we still waiting for better pics of whnay's coat?
    If his tailors fixed the little fit problems it should be absolutely perfect now...


    I think that they are working on removing the widowpane...this would eliminate the grid lines that are leading some people to be going all medieval on the ass of that jacket.

    Since it is one-ply Breanish, you can pick off the overcheck with just chopsticks.

    - B
     
  10. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Sham trial to shut up a man who saw the truth.

    There are still many PayPal options available, although oddly, not for Supreme Bespoke.

    Mind the 3% addition for PayPal, though.

    - B
     
  11. George

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    Recent update...they jail people for the most ridiculous reasons in the UK, and leave many unjailed who should be. Three years? I mean, Des prefers structure, but come on... - B
    Well, well, well............Doesn't bad news travel quickly!!!!
     
  12. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Well, well, well............Doesn't bad news travel quickly!!!!

    I give him credit for being a character. From the original blog, to the former Anglican priest's extortion attempt, to the whole Will/Des episode over the unfinished Darren Beaman suit, to the t£30,000 suit, to this: he's not dull.

    Moreover, grouse at short range with a sawed off shotgun is probably a lot of fun as long as Dick Cheney is not in your shooting party.

    I do hope he gets out soon to be back with his family, however.


    - B
     
  13. George

    George Senior member

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    I give him credit for being a character. From the original blog, to the former Anglican priest's extortion attempt, to the whole Will/Des episode over the unfinished Darren Beaman suit, to the t£30,000 suit, to this: he's not dull. Moreover, grouse at short range with a sawed off shotgun is probably a lot of fun as long as Dick Cheney is not in your shooting party. I do hope he gets out soon to be back with his family, however. - B
    Ah...the life of an on-line tailor eh? Oh, he's a character all right. I'll be letting him make me a celebratory suit when he's out. All that mail bag sewing should have improved his handwork no end. [​IMG] Seriously though, I feel for his wife and kids.
     
  14. tailorgod

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    In your opinion as a tailor yourself (but I assume not a felon), would it still be possible to make a £30,000 Supreme Bespoke suit in jail, assuming the fabric and findings are smuggled in?

    Supreme Bespoke is sewn entirely by hand. No sewing machine necessary.

    As for the three years, it seems to me that the British would have done better to imprison Gordon Brown for three years, but that is another matter.


    - B

    I don't know anything about British prisons and their rules, but maybe he will make one of those suits for the director of his prison, so he can legally obtain the necessary goods.
    Since he is such a threat to society he won't be allowed to use his proper tailor shears. They'll give him one of the kid's paper scissors instead.

    If that Ruger pistol is anything like the P1 pistol I fired on a shooting range when doing my military service he had more chances to kill somebody by throwing it. Which, of course would have limited the number of casualties.

    Apparently he did not have any good lawyers among his customers in the UK.
    I do hope and think he'll get out soon. I'm surprised he got such a long sentence in the first place.

    And all this because his helper wasn't smart enough to put enough stamps on the parcel.
    Can you get arrested for simply being stupid in the USA? [​IMG]
     
  15. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Can you get arrested for simply being stupid in the USA? [​IMG]

    Since I am free to go about at will, I don't think so.

    - B
     
  16. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Since I am free to go about at will, I don't think so.

    - B


    Seriously, guys, this threak has become as catty and sick as any more advanced threads. Is jefferyd still around to provide actual content, or are we going to be treated to another Untergang reenactment?
     
  17. zalb916

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    Recent update...they jail people for the most ridiculous reasons in the UK, and leave many unjailed who should be.

    Three years? I mean, Des prefers structure, but come on...

    - B


    "Merrion (40), of Brocklesby Road, Ulceby, admitted conspiring with Christopher Rimby to import a Ruger .22 pistol, between January and October 2007. ... A company called Fedex, in Atlanta, Georgia, intercepted a parcel addressed to Merrion's business address."

    A Style Forum accomplice? SF member William is Chris Rimby from Atlanta.
     
  18. whnay.

    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What say you of this fine tailoring?

    [​IMG]
     
  19. mmkn

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    What say you of this fine tailoring?

    [​IMG]


    After consulting with my wife . . . needs more mystery . . . less naked, more nude . . . . not flavor, but spice . . .

    - M
     
  20. whnay.

    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm curious to know how the extra hand comes into play.
     

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