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Sartoria Napoli Surprises Me...

antirabbit

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Really, they are all the same. Kiton, Borrelli, Attolini, Partenopea, La Vera, Isaia etc. There is no difference, only personal preference.

As Matt said, I tend to like Isaia and Partenopea. Love Sartorio but have very little experience. My preference is swayed by the deals I can find....Attolini, Borrelli, and Kiton do not fit that mold. They are well known and are very hard to find good deals on. la Vera is pretty much never seen, Partenopea is very rare and Sartorio can be had on Yoox.
 

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Originally Posted by winston
If he means Sartorio... I am thrilled with mine. The front canvassing is a little stiffer that I hoped, but overall it's one of the nicest RTW cuts, and the construction is surprisingly better than the more expensive Stile Latino.
A chance to throw out a little rant about Stile Latino. I love my jacket, it's soft and wears like a cardigan, but the canvassing contains these stiff bristles which sometimes protrude through the fabric and have to be removed with tweezers. This happens on the lapel roll and more so on the shoulders, which contain a small amount of the same material inside. I've never experienced this before.


The small bristley things are from the horsehair layer in the canvass not from the hymo the canvass is made from. The cut edges of the haircloth are covered to prevent this from occurring but it still happens. It is not a negative regarding the construction. It just happens, although it is annoying.
 

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Originally Posted by Despos
The small bristley things are from the horsehair layer in the canvass not from the hymo the canvass is made from. The cut edges of the haircloth are covered to prevent this from occurring but it still happens. It is not a negative regarding the construction. It just happens, although it is annoying.
I guessed that it was horsehair or a synthetic equivalent, but I just didn't expect to see them poking through like 3 days of beard stubble. To be fair it has only been about six strands in total. So far. I still rate the Sartorio higher though.
 

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My apologies for the typo/misspelling; it is indeed Sartorio, by Kiton, with MSRP of $3995. I picked it up from Lance, here:
http://www.virtualclotheshorse.com/i...duct_id=554095
where he still has two Regs in 42 and 44.

They all are navy with a distinctively wide-spaced, chalk-stripe flannel. It is at my tailor's so I won't have it for another week or so, but there are some pics in the ad.
 

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Originally Posted by antirabbit
As Matt said, I tend to like Isaia and Partenopea. Love Sartorio but have very little experience. My preference is swayed by the deals I can find....Attolini, Borrelli, and Kiton do not fit that mold. They are well known and are very hard to find good deals on. la Vera is pretty much never seen, Partenopea is very rare and Sartorio can be had on Yoox.

So is Yoox the only place to find Sartorio in the US?
 

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My (Attolini-era) Sartorio suit is my favourite. Mid blue-grey. Not too far from the colour, weight and texture of Cary Grant's famous suit in N by NW. Maybe just a bit bluer.
 

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A local retailer in Atlanta - Sid Mashburn - carries Sartorio. Love, love, love the suits but $3750 is a lot of scratch. What do you all think?
 

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Here's what purports to be a brand new, with unfinished sleeves and pant legs, Sartoria Partenopea for Milord suit for $999.
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Really, they are all the same. Kiton, Borrelli, Attolini, Partenopea, La Vera, Isaia etc. There is no difference, only personal preference.


I just found this by searching the forum for an old thread and felt the urge to say that this is complete bullshit.
 

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Originally Posted by Cravate_Noire
I just found this by searching the forum for an old thread and felt the urge to say that this is complete bullshit.

No, at one point, this is quite true. They were all very high quality, with lots of show-off handworks, RTW makers. Now Borrelli has reduced its quality quite dramatically, Kiton is trying to reinvent itself as a fashion brand, Isaia has also gone some wierd dandy-rific direction. Only Attolini and La Vera has sustained the high quality RTW principal. Though Attolini is in danger of becoming another Kiton.
 

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Originally Posted by maomao1980
No, at one point, this is quite true. They were all very high quality, with lots of show-off handworks, RTW makers. Now Borrelli has reduced its quality quite dramatically, Kiton is trying to reinvent itself as a fashion brand, Isaia has also gone some wierd dandy-rific direction. Only Attolini and La Vera has sustained the high quality RTW principal. Though Attolini is in danger of becoming another Kiton.
Hm, this sounds like everything turned upside down within 2 years. Borrelli is out of judgement, I know some really unrealiable folks in Italy who consider it as crazy what happens there, it's even not possible to contact the company as such on a reliable basis. The shirts they sell in some locations are still the old stuff. Their jackets at 900€ are much better than Kiton at 3000€. Then they there is flood of Borrelli new stuff crap all over the world. I know also a company that made some models (only sb, 3 button sportcoats and blazers) for La Vera for some time, if they kept the quality...top notch (from what I have see they did). Kiton pants are
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... Attolini pants (the more expensive models which they normally sell with suits) are pretty much like Ambrosi, the less expensive ones (most retailers order these for causal models) are probably like most of SF imagines how Kiton pants were in the good old days. However I doubt that Kiton stopped overnight from making almost bespoke quality pants to start doing what they do know. I've also been to the company that makes the canvassing and shoulder materials for all those brands and I have seen which get their complete canvassing delivered readily in different sizes; a few buy larger canvassing pieces and uncut shoulder pieces which they at least have to adjust or party handsew. Also Partenopea is notorious for being somewhat irregular, if they ever had more actual handwork than Borrelli I'll eat a broomstick. It's nice yeah and yeah I like them, but Attolini uses for its current jackets almost as much handstitching to attach the lining (!!! which is mostly machine set!!!) than Partenopea uses on the outside (!!!). That said Matt is actually right (though find the differences to be eminent);you should rather buy those brands due to preference or for variety or instant satisfaction or whatever, than to show mummy your handsewn crotch area (only Attolini on the more espensive trouser models, from the mentioned brands btw.).
Whats the reason for Attolini being the twice the price of Isaia ?
Dont know about Isaia, but Attolini is ca.40% more for your retailer than Kiton...I somehow don't see that this difference is reflected in the final retail price. Once again, you pay for preference.
 

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