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San Fransico/San Jose/Monterey trip.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Tokyo Slim, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. LabelKing

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    dont forget your aquamarine faux-snake skin mezlan slip-ons with gold buckles.
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  2. Tokyo Slim

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    It's only week away!

    What days and which members in the area available for Lunch/Dinner/Drinks/Bank Robberies with an econobox rental getaway car? I'm thinking 19th and/or 20th. I'm trying to coordinate, so I need to figure out if we are all getting together at once, or if its better for you guys to meet up seperately...

    Members who won't be in the area - what are some "must-see" cheap restraunt / photo spots / things to do and see reccomendations?

    Looking for a good place to have Christmas dinner on the cheap. I'm thinking Chinatown...( I'm assuming that a few places will be open ) But am open to any other heathen establishments that don't give a damn that it's Christmas eve/day.

    Don't really know what the sleeping schedule is yet, but I should have that worked out in a couple days.
     
  3. itsstillmatt

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    I should be availablish from the 18th to the 23rd.

    In Chinatown for xmas you really have two excellent choices. My favorite is R&G Lounge and second favorite is Oriental Pearl. They are both relatively inexpensive and the food is great.
     
  4. Manton

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    I will be around the entire week, and in the city the 19th and 20th at least. The rest of the time in the Monterey Bay. Come to Santa Cruz. I think you will like it.
     
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    I will be around the entire week, and in the city the 19th and 20th at least. The rest of the time in the Monterey Bay. Come to Santa Cruz. I think you will like it.
    The drugs are good, the sex is free... Kind of like Berkeley.
     
  6. Tokyo Slim

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    I should be availablish from the 18th to the 23rd.

    In Chinatown for xmas you really have two excellent choices. My favorite is R&G Lounge and second favorite is Oriental Pearl. They are both relatively inexpensive and the food is great.



    Awesome, thanks. Also, in your opinion, who's got the best burger and the best pizza in town?

    I'm flying in on the morning of the 19th. Anyone know how bad the drive from SF to Monterey usually is traffic wise? I'm going to be doing a bit of back and forth. over that week.
     
  7. Tokyo Slim

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    I will be around the entire week, and in the city the 19th and 20th at least. The rest of the time in the Monterey Bay. Come to Santa Cruz. I think you will like it.

    I will definitely stop in to Santa Cruz. I mean, its on my way!
    I'm probably staying most of the trip in Monterey, aside from the first couple days where I am trying to stay in SF.
     
  8. minya

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    San Francisco isn't really a burger-and-pizza kind of city. Make sure you get up early and go to Tartine, at 18th and Guerrero, and get one of their morning buns. I don't think you'll find a better pastry place unless you spend the rest fof your life in the cottage countries of France.
     
  9. itsstillmatt

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    There are two really good pizza places if you are looking for very traditional Italian pizza (not pepperoni). My favorite is Delfina Pizzeria which is in the Mission. You need to wait for a table, but they let you drink on the street so it is OK. Fancier is A16, but I don't think that it is as good. Zachary's in Berkeley is supposed to be great, but I don't love it. Tommaso's is good and old San Francisco and has the advantage (I guess) of being next to a bunch of strip clubs.

    For burgers I think that Mo's in North Beach is the best. I wouldn't really call it a restaurant, but it is very tasty. Some people swear by Taylor's at the Ferry Building, but I think that it is a big yuppy nightmare.

    If you like Mexican food, La Tacqueria is an absolute must. It is a taco/burrito stand but very traditional. I would definitely be up for heading out there if we can come up with the right time.

    The drive is a couple of hours to Monterrey.
     
  10. Full Canvas

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    As for San Francisco's hamburgers, I can second immatt's vote for Mo's on Grant Street. Mo's is brightly lit, friendly, and noisy. What's not to like about a place that serves great burgers and has a Three Stooges picture on the wall? However, Original Joe's in the Tenderloin District on Taylor Street will give you a slice of life and a burger that is every bit as good as Mo's. You had better be hungry at Original Joe's. Their hamburger with ¾ pounds of red meat is almost twice the meat portion of Mo's! Original Joe's has a counter or booths. It's usually more subdued than Mo's unless one of the street people wanders in to sit at the counter.

    When we visit Santa Cruz for business and personal reasons and have some extra time to visit San Francisco, we like the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in the Financial District. The views are San Francisco's best. We always take a corner suite waaaaaaaaaaaaay up high in the second tower and feed our vertigo walking across the sky bridge from the elevator to our door! I mention this only because the hotel is almost exactly equidistant between Mo's and Original Joe's. Sometimes, Mrs. FC just doesn't want to join me at those colorful restaurants. So, I can walk fifteen minutes to either restaurant and enjoy a burger "alone" with the crowd at either restaurant.

    I cannot personally attest to pizza in San Francisco.

    Driving from the City to Monterey, you can always head west on Geary Blvd. to the Great Highway. Then, it is south past the zoo area and onto Skyline Blvd. through Daly City to Highway 1 south. Hwy 1 is quite pretty from Pacifica southward with the road's dips and twists along the sea cliffs through scrub forest, meadows, and deserted beach areas. You'll drive through Half Moon Bay, Davenport, and Santa Cruz. From Santa Cruz (after you say hello to Manton), the trip to Monterey is only another forty-five miles of ordinary highway. That is, unless you want to know about some of the scenic and secret sports car back roads from Santa Cruz to Monterey. [​IMG]

    The portion of the route from the City to Santa Cruz along Hwy 1 is about thirty minutes longer than simply driving Hwy 280 south to Hwy 17 south. Parts of Hwy 280 are somewhat scenic as are parts Hwy 17 when you drive through the Santa Cruz Mountains from Los Gatos to Scotts Valley outside of Santa Cruz.

    From the City it may be wise to avoid the Bayshore Hwy/101 to Hwy. 17 south. The traffic congestion on the Bayshore Hwy/101 is usually bad and the road surface is quite poor in many areas.
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  11. itsstillmatt

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    I would second Original Joes as well. Not to be left out is that it is in close proximity to a true San Francisco landmark... Mitchell Brothers. THe Mitchell Brothers Theater is perhaps the finest adult club in the US and one of the oldest. It may not have the absolutly best looking dancers, but from what I hear, they are extremely umm friendly. It really is worth a visit as it is a true historical landmark. I don't know if I have been since I was 18 or so, but it is not to be missed if you have not been.
     
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    I would second Original Joes as well. Not to be left out is that it is in close proximity to a true San Francisco landmark... Mitchell Brothers. THe Mitchell Brothers Theater is perhaps the finest adult club in the US and one of the oldest. It may not have the absolutly best looking dancers, but from what I hear, they are extremely umm friendly. It really is worth a visit as it is a true historical landmark. I don't know if I have been since I was 18 or so, but it is not to be missed if you have not been.

    When you said "close proximity to a true San Francisco landmark" I thought you were going to tell Tokyo Slim about Glide Memorial Methodist Church! [​IMG]

    I've never heard of those Mitchell Brothers fellows! [​IMG]

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  13. Manton

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    The drive from SF to Monterey, in perfect circumstances (no traffic, breaking all the laws, miraculously not pulled over) is at least two hours. To Santa Cruz, at least 1:15.

    Zachary's is Chicago style deep dish pizza. I used to swear by it. Since moving east, I have become more a partisan of the NY style thin crust. Zach's is still the best for what it is, but I can see why people prefer other styles.

    The best burger in the Bay Area is the Smokehouse, a horrible dive on the Berkeley/Oakland line.
     
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    Have you, ah, ridden Amtrak before?

    For pizza I'd second Zachary's. Really no great thin crust in the Bay Area.

    For burgers I think Barney's is pretty good- albeit somewhat yuppie. One in the Marina, one on Solano in Albany, and one in Montclair (Oakland Hills- my old digs).

    IMO other than Chez Panisse there really isn't any good food in Berkeley. And I must've hit them on a bad night cuz I wasn't impressed.

    Surprised no one's mentioned the 17 mile drive. This is a must.

    Oh yeah- Matt's right on the Mitchell Bros. theatre. You might want to bring a bit of cash though (not that I'd know or anything.)
     
  15. Tokyo Slim

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    Have you, ah, ridden Amtrak before?

    No Amtrak... I am flying.
     
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    Thank God...

    I didn't read thread correctly.
     
  17. Tokyo Slim

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    Ok this is the official word:

    I will be in SF on the 19th, 20th, and 21st, then head down to Monterey to see my shark at the Aquarium and Mnemonic at DLI. Then hang out wherever while staying in Monterey the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, and 26th. Fly home the 27th.

    Oh, and I hate to break it to you guys, but without a job, I will be fiscally unable to visit any um... dancing theaters...

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Full Canvas

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    Ok this is the official word:

    I will be in SF on the 19th, 20th, and 21st, then head down to Monterey to see my shark at the Aquarium and Mnemonic at DLI. Then hang out wherever while staying in Monterey the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th, and 26th. Fly home the 27th.

    Oh, and I hate to break it to you guys, but without a job, I will be fiscally unable to visit any um... dancing theaters...

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    Voltaire advises us that in matters of opinion, there can be no dispute.

    The Manton-nominated SmokeHouse is a “picnic benches” kind of indoor-outdoor place all the way over in Berkeley and just a little too much on the greasy side for some MTM and bespoke people. It is, however, a perennial RTW student favorite and priced according to RTW student budgets. I haven’t had a SmokeHouse hamburger since around 1968 or so.

    As for “best”, both iammatt and Manton have weighed-in with that word. There are three quite distinct hamburgers and atmospheres amongst Mo’s, SmokeHouse, and Original Joe’s. Maybe you should try all three since you are there for three days![​IMG]

    If I were to remark on the BEST hamburger in San Francisco, well . . . the best I ever had was done-up for me at the old Grison’s out on Van Ness in the vicinity of Pacific Heights. Grison’s is long gone and some so-called steak and prime rib joint is operating there.

    Speaking of joints . . . I am irresistibly drawn to Tommy’s Joynt on Van Ness Ave. at Geary Blvd. Some people deride it as a tourist place. Forget that! More San Franciscan’s eat there than tourists. The place has been operating on the same spot for more than a hundred years. It’s a dark and filled with memorabilia, beer, and lots more patina than any one of sysdoc’s John Lobb shoes. [​IMG]

    Tommy’s Joynt is an inexpensive Bavarian Hof Brau style place. Grab a tray and walk the hot table line while telling the cook what sandwich or cuts of roasted turkey, ham, beef, corned beef, turkey legs, brisket and so forth you want with your potatoes, gravy, salad, bread, vegetables, and dessert. They pile too much of everything onto your plates. Find a seat either at the bar or one of the tables and order some beer from your waitress. Their huge selection of draft and bottled beer is impressive by almost anyone’s standards. It’s nearly impossible to eat in silence. Someone will start-up a conversation with you.

    Were I to be alone in San Francisco for Christmas dinner, I think I would head to Tommy’s Joynt rather than one of the China Town eateries. Tommy’s Joynt is certainly more convivial than anything I know of in China Town.

    If not Tommy’s Joynt or China Town, there is always Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial Methodist church since you are not going to visit the nearby Mitchell Brothers' dancing theater that I’ve never heard of! [​IMG] Have a fun and safe trip!!
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  19. Tokyo Slim

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    The Manton-nominated SmokeHouse is a "picnic benches" kind of indoor-outdoor place all the way over in Berkeley and just a little too much on the greasy side for some MTM and bespoke people. It is, however, a perennial RTW student favorite and priced according to RTW student budgets. I haven't had a SmokeHouse hamburger since around 1968 or so.

    This sounds awesome... I am going to have to check it out.

    Hell, I might hit them in one day. I eat like a garbage disposal. [​IMG]

    Well that aint much help... [​IMG]

    This also sounds like an outstanding place... Are you sure they are open on Christmas Eve/Day? Regardless, I'm going to check it out. Also - Christmas dinner will most likely be shared by a vegetarian, and two or three Japanese people - which is why I thought that maybe Chinatown would be a good compromise.

    I dunno man, I appreciate the invite, but Christmas dinner at a church is really not my style. [​IMG]

    I'll try to have fun, and as for safe? We'll see...
     
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    I dunno man, I appreciate the invite, but Christmas dinner at a church is really not my style. [​IMG]

    It is a little joke for those that know San Francisco fairly well. I don't believe any of the Forum members would elect to have Christmas dinner at Glide Memorial. [​IMG]
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