Size 33 waist - had them taken in further so they actually do measure 16.5 inches when laid flat. Inseam is 32". Loads of wear left - still very dark with great fading. Waist was taken in by the Denim Doctor, who also sorted out the pockets (you can see the fan stitching in the close up). The jeans are slimmer than the usual 5000 cut as the legs were taken in a touch too. Been only soaked/rinsed in lukewarm water after initial hot soak. Just ask for measurements if you're interested... Asking for 240 USD shipped anywhere. Payment via paypal gift option.