I was browsing in Macy's for a variety of things with my fiancee a few days ago, and I wandered into the suit/blazer area just to check out what they had in terms of tuxedos (I already knew what models were sold online, but wanted to see what was actually carried in the store and possibly just try a couple on to see if any particular brand fit since I have a strange body habitus). Anyway, I eventually found the two or three styles they had in stock (all notch lapel of course, unfortunately), and a "sales associate" (if you can call them that at Macy's) approached my fiancee and me to ask if we needed help. He was a gentleman probably in his mid-50's or early 60's even. I replied "I'm just checking out tuxedos you have in stock to get a feel for some of the fits, although I'm guessing you don't have any in a peak or shawl lapel?" and he gave me this quizzical and troubled look as if I had said "hello, I am a registered sex offender." After he paused for a moment, he said "Um . . . you might want to rethink that. Peak and shawl lapels are very outdated. Pretty much everyone wears notch lapels nowadays." I presume he was trying to be helpful, misguided as he was. And to be fair, most people do end up wearing notch lapel tuxedos these days, misguided as they are. I just said something about "well I have a particular look in mind" and ended up getting out of there soon thereafter. Is this what menswear has become? Even guys who probably should know better are willing to throw in the towel and bend to the will of the masses?