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Salary vs Suit prices

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dingdongbell, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. landshark

    landshark Senior member

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    Let me clarify myself. Basically anything after your expenses and savings is the money you can use. I considered savings an expense, but I see how that was misinterpreted.
     
  2. Amelorn

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    This is a weird post. I agree with the first few lines and the under 50k group. I have seldom seen anyone independent earning under 50k in anything but the $99 rayon special from JC Penney. However, a $1000 is hardly an extravagance to someone earning over $75k and living well within their means. The cost of living does not increase in a precisely linear fashion. Ex, my grandfather has 100 times the cash assets and 10 times the property assets of my mother but 3 times the necessary expenses (food, utilities, taxes).
     
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    Agreed, +3 to the outlandishness of this post. Renter? What about the city dwellers, where property ownership is impractical or unattainable for whatever circumstance? Your rash generalizations are hilarious.
     
  4. suited

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    Which pretty much makes a thread like this, or any thread asking a similar question, pointless.
     
  5. mrclam

    mrclam Senior member

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    If you had a million dollars, what would you do with it?

    I've got a friend in securities who knows somebody..I'd invest half a million with them, then take the rest....
     
  6. Techboy

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    Assuming a family of four

    60k $350 or less
    100k $500 or less
    200k $800 or less
    500k $1500 or less
    1m $3-4k
    2+m >$5k
     
  7. David Reeves

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    I don't see why someone who bothers to participate in a clothing forum, would think this about suits. Surely someone who goes on a forum like this would value clothing and prioritize it as a spend more than the "average joe"?

    I really cant see a $500 suit being acceptable for all kinds of reasons, 1k on sale yes but anything else forget it. I was wearing $500 (and thats what i paid) suits when I was an art student, I was 19 and it was the 90s. Your talking about little boys suits, or suits for people that don't care about clothes.
     
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  8. dbc

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    QFT.

    You get what you pay for.
     
  9. mrclam

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    not everyone visiting a clothing forum thinks having more handiwork/construction is worth the premium that it comes with. If the suit fits you well and makes you look good; what other criteria are necessary for a suit to be acceptable? does it need to be hand crafted by someone on savile row to be considered acceptable? the reason that most people go bespoke is for the fit - if you have average proportions, and can get an OTR suit that fits you well, what's wrong with that?
     
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  10. hellodocks

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    You get the people who care immensely about clothing yet aren't in the financial position to afford what they know to be appropriate. That was me until very recently ago. Why must you prod him so fiercely? His point is valid. Young people or the less-well-to-do among us do not enjoy the privilege of much disposable income, and when someone sees how much they can get for their money versus an expensive suit, sometimes people don't make the same decision you would.
     
  11. David Reeves

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    I think you need to test drive to tell the difference. The economics of producing a $500 suit just don't make sense and are a big reason for why I think its unacceptable. Someone in that relationship is getting short shrift whether it be buyer or maker. I believe in good product and being paid a fair wage for it, i don't think theres anything wrong with that. Im not going to get suckered into an argument over $500 suits and justifying what I do or what Savile row does because its distasteful and rather beneath me to be fair.
     
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  12. mrclam

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    I never said there wasn't a difference, but are you suggesting that someone on SF just out of college needs to buy bespoke in order to have an acceptable suit? What is the average age of your clientele? I would say that your position is unreasonable for anybody with limited financial means, which is going to be a large percentage of this forum.
     
  13. mrclam

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    The economics of producing a $500 suit - Manufactured and cut to fit a generic shape/figure. Quality of the construction is not going to be as high, and it will not be tailored for the customer. That doesn't mean that there don't exist people for whom those suits do fit with minimal altering, and for the people in that group, this suit is certainly acceptable.

    I'm not saying that bespoke does not have its place, it certainly does, and there is value in it for people who have the means to afford it. That doesn't mean you have to look down at anything less than bespoke as being unacceptable.
     
  14. David Reeves

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    Hey, hey don't get me wrong. I understand all that. I don't ever wear it on my sleeve but I was brought up on a council estate (you'd call it the projects). when I was at school the best job you could get for boys was driving a bread van and the girls expected to be knocked up and get a free flat. When I was 19 I was in college and I worked at a Savile row tailors during the day (the nerve) and at night I worked as a bar back. Thing is though you get older wiser and your salary increases so you can buy things that are more "appropriate", you have to aspire to better things and sample all things that are good in life. If you read my post you will see that I was wearing rather cheap suits at 19. They were horrible too.
     
  15. David Reeves

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    Im not saying that at all. I have no problem with someone buying a zegna on sale OTR. You can only slice things so thin before someone gets exploited and thats something to think about.
     
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    Unless you live full time in a nudist colony clothing is an essential expense.
     
  17. Nicola

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    If you're in sales you need to worry about this even more.

    If the car salesman telling you the deal is killing him and he won't be able to feed his kids is wearing $10K between suit and shoes you're going to feel differently then if he looks like he shops at Walmart.

    Or how about this.

    A few months ago a panhandler asked for money. Telling me he hadn't eaten in weeks. The guys was 5'6 and around 300lbs. I'm being kind on both.
     
  18. Nicola

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    $5K is less then $14 a day. How much do two Starbucks cost these days?

    How many people do you know that have at least one every day?

    Or how many people still smoke a pack a day.

    If a guy wants a SR suit instead of starbucks I don't see the issue.
     
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  20. mrclam

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    Fair enough, you've got to be aware of your environment on both sides. Goes for everything, I think.
     

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