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Saint Laurent Paris - Official Thread.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by AriGold, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. sepp

    sepp Senior member

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    Thanks onlyslp,

    Been reading up on this thread about crashed denim and its sizing; I actually sized down one for my order. 2 might be possible but I don't want to risk damaging those "rips" unnecessarily having to squeeze my legs in every time. LOL!!!

    Had a couple of experiences with other types of destroyed jeans.

    Edit to add: it could be the U.S. custom charges but the prices seen on Ssense compared to Bergdofgoodman are pretty significantly lower.

    Unless of course, Bergdofgoodman does it like Mr Porter and absorbs the import tax to whichever destination it ships.
     
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  2. onlyslp

    onlyslp Senior member

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    No problem man, SLP denim sizing's been all over the place after FW13

    but then i think i noticed that the MII denims are almost all made of that really stretchy denim

    and then the MIJ ones or at least the black raw/ any wash that is made from black raw is made of that slp classic stiff black denim that loosens up after some wear

    On the side note, I ordered the black knee rip and black raw from this season on LUISAVIAROMA in size 27 and they fit exactly like my FW13 size 28 black raws on the waist.........just returned the parcel for 26 in both......[​IMG]
     


  3. flowen

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    Tried on current season Wyatts today. Leg opening is fucked. You can see how wide they are with D02 on in the last pic. Either gonna hold out and hope they unfuck them next season or search for an old pair.

    Tried on D02 coated as well, super tight around my calves but perfect in the top block. Hoping the D01 coated I have on their way will be good for my dumb calves.
     


  4. onlyslp

    onlyslp Senior member

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    Did you size down on the black coated?
     


  5. flowen

    flowen Member

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    The D02's in those pics are 30s, the jeans in the first pic are acne ace cash, size 29. The D01's I have coming from ebay are also 30 but have very similar measurements to my ace cash.
     


  6. kieran84

    kieran84 Senior member

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    Looks shit when you can see the boot pulling the jeans forward. I had the same on this season's wyatt chelsea, even though they are the same item code as my ones from last season which have a really narrow shaft that you don't see through the jeans. Also the 4.5 French side zips have the ridiculously massive ankles too. Did they really have to make them so much bigger? Seems ridiculous. My thinking is that you need to get things the first season they come out if possible, before they get dumbed down. Cropped jodhpurs for example also have a pretty big gap at the front between ankle and shoe now which they didn't until AW14, it's not really a problem with those though as the jeans don't have to go over the top. Leather doesn't seem to be the same as it was though.

    I think we should all keep feeding this back when we're in store because they clearly are listening to feedback to have changed them in the first place.

    It's getting to a stage now where I dread online orders arriving because you just don't know what is going to arrive. I've had to make so many returns recently that it's getting ridiculous. You really need to try things in store as half of it is great and the other half not so much.
     


  7. SirGrotius

    SirGrotius Senior member

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    Why do you think they dumb them down, so to speak? Complaints about being too tight? (Curious, not doubting it.)
     


  8. thorns

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    Only powerful feedback is to stop buying it...but I think there are still plenty of people who are still happy to keep buying these ugly wyatt boots.
     


  9. kieran84

    kieran84 Senior member

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    One sales assistant told me that they had a lot of customers that couldn't fit the old boots over their ankles. Another told me that they had a lot of people moaning about how tight the jeans were AW13. I also know that people complained about the high arm-holes from the start. Something tells me a lot of this feedback probably came from old YSL customers or casual walk in customers (who probably wouldn't have bought anything anyway), rather than those that came to the brand because of Hedi. What I don't really understand is that sales were excellent so if it wasn't broken why fix it? They did need to address a few issues, but did they really have to swing so far the other way?

    I think that the recent return to closer fitting jackets / coats / hoodies etc. is probably because things stopped selling quite so easily - I mean for example the chesterfields from AW 13 sold out early whereas they were stuck with the 14 ones way into spring and summer 15. When it comes to the boots a lot of the new customers don't seem to be too discerning and / or haven't experienced the old ones. Same with the jeans. Unfortunately as sales are good I doubt they'll go back to how they were. It seems YSL are happy with some permanent items to just make sure they fit everyone and then sell shit loads of them while they can.

    On the other hand, t-shirts and some knits seem to have gotten smaller. I've been finding a lot of the necklines tight going over my head for example, and the shoulder seams are way narrower on the t-shirts (had to return several this season as the fit just wasn't there for me like it used to be). I really like the laid back loose necklines and wide shoulder seams of the old t-shirts (like they are on the silk t-shirts still thank God), so that's not a change I'm too happy with. I bet that's probably due to feedback too as I think a lot of people didn't really get the boxy top with skinny jeans proportion.

    I should say I still love the label and am really happy with my purchases this season, it's just a shame that a lot of the old stuff has been altered.
     


  10. kieran84

    kieran84 Senior member

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    Thinking about it, I can't really imagine how thick someone's knees and ankles would need to be to fill some of the new boots and jeans in those areas
     


  11. mugatu

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    ^ maybe that's because the purpose isn't for your ankles to "fill" the shaft.. but to let em breathe! I personally dig the new Wyatts (and French's even more). and I'm no casual customer, or Pilati era YSL customer... Actually I'm probably one of the older Hedi followers and it may come to a shock to some but Hedi wasn't always about this uber skin tight look I see many SLP customers dying over. As SS16 shows he is switching it up a bit with proportions. I think this is something good, as I like forward thinking. Listening to some of you, it almost sounds as you'd enjoy an endless repeat of FW13. I don't mean to start a racket up in here as I know the aesthetics that you guys covet but you need to keep an open mind about change/evolution. it's not even just about functionality or commercialism.. to me the Wyatts just look better proportioned with the wider top shaft, it brings them more alongside the aestethic of the vintage biker boots Hedi is emulating... they're a bit more masculine cool for lack of better term.. actually they are looking a lot like their iconic DH counterparts:

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  12. linstar

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    I think Kieran may be on the right track. The fits probably change to what the majority of customers feel like they want and you have to remember on style forum we are likely the minority. For example I don't mind the slimmer neck lines on the tshirts and knitwear but for me the armholes of some coats this season are too high. For example the pea coat this season fits perfectly except for the armholes for me. They are simply too high causing the material to fold in where there is a gap between my shoulders and the coat.
     


  13. Prudy

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    Not to state the obvious but it is RTW and not couture. If the design calls for looser than so be it, but re: the chain Wyatts this is an established design that is probably morphing to suit a wider audience, not a seasonal design that calls for a wider/different aesthetic.

    I certainly understand the complaint about things like D02s all-of-a-sudden having many extra centimeters of fabric added to the thighs and butts overnight without any indication from SLP about it. I also understand it's a business...

    But, let's be honest if we're talking about it at all, the brand is Hedi, and, up until at least SS16 the brand has presented it's aesthetic as very, very skinny. If it continues to present that image but the clothing doesn't match...
     
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  14. fwoedit

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    Anyone know how to parse SLP tags?

    Saw this yesterday, and have been trying to find a pic online (since I was too shy to take a pic of myself in the jacket).

    I've looked extensively online at the FW 2014 collection (since it's apparently from last year), and the only picture (I think) I can find of it is being worn by J. Bieber, whose head I've cropped off to keep myself from being put off this awesome, understated, (insanely expensive,) classic jacket.

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    I've quote-googled every one of these numbers and have yet to find a picture. The news story where the Bieb pic appears says his jacket is SLP, but now I'm beginning to have my doubts. But the other ones online don't look like the jacket I tried on.

    Most have beige wool, and I remember the wool being snowy white, like the pic above.

    But why can't I find the jacket I saw yesterday anywhere else online?
     
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  15. SaintLaurent

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    I find the changes in size disappointing, I love the extremely skinny cuts especially since I'm so skinny myself and it's hard to find clothes that actually fit. I don't want to buy the jeans anymore since I already take the smallest size and I don't want to spend that much money on something that I don't like the fit of.
     


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