Saint Laurent Paris - Official Thread.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by AriGold, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. 0JSIMPS0N

    0JSIMPS0N Senior member

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    dude its the fucking SLP thread for crying out loud. if you cant afford SLP, that sucks, but this isnt the place to ruminate about the tragic unfair world we live in.


    you're just as bad as the teenager up there. this is the fucking SLP thread for petes sake. no one cares that some kid has to mow lawns for 5 weekends straight so he can buy his april77 jeans. oh and delahno you dont need to tell us you cant afford SLP, trust me we know. Hard to imagine a stupid kid who doesn't realize hes just like every other stupid kid out there like yourself has any kind of income.

    Back on topic: I got my L01 from '13 recently, ill post a proper fit pic when I get the chance.
     
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    You should try doing a search for Santiag in this thread before posting a question that's already been discussed about 5 times.
     


  3. ohmydontcry

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    all mighty styleforum god thank you for blessing me with knowledge of the search button.

    there is a reason I specifically asked about the shoe at ssense... maybe because I already know that mr.p suggested a size up... the slp store suggests a size down and people have found inconstant sizing based on where the shoe they purchased was made.
     


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    Prudy Senior member

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    For reference, I wear a size 43.5 in creepers, but took a 43 in all my Spanish-made santiags - both cropped and cowboy boot style. I find them too roomy if tts, I slip around in them. Sizing up seems insane but I guess it depends on your foot shape. I have a standard wide dude's foot D.

    The Italian-made pair I have I sized up .5 and they fit great, but they are narrower throughout than the Spanish-made ones, which are wider through the midfoot IME and then get narrow in the toe.
     
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    ohmydontcry Senior member

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    Thanks for the info, I went ahead and yolo'd a size 42. the same size I wear in the SLP chelsea, also it was the smallest size they had left. so here is to hoping they fit.

    thank god for free returns :)
     


  6. Prudy

    Prudy Senior member

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    ^^ that sounds like it should work, perhaps.
     


  7. Delanho

    Delanho Senior member

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    not a teenager (20) haha
    and I work in a chem lab at my uni (although mowing lawns would probably pay more)

    Back on topic: anyone have pics wearing any of the tunics? interested to see how people incorporate them into their warddrobe.. they are the coolest things ever imo
     


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    everyone knows Mr Porter sizing advice is 99% of the time WRONG.

    they call you to go TTS with Lanvins, that's ONE of many examples.
     


  9. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I think that the Dior Homme version of the skinny jean is very comparable, and at this point, considerably more affordable (I think that I saw some for 250 Euros at some boutique in Europe).

    As for denim quality, it's not a great reason to buy SLP. There are plenty of denimhead jeans that use much more interesting denim. SLP jeans are really distinguished by their cut, which is typical Hedi Slimane.
     


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    ^^ slp Raws are 290 FYI
     


  11. 0JSIMPS0N

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    Im curious as to why you say this? I hope its not a knee jerk reaction to this type of question. Are we now just equating denim thickness to quality?

    I honestly think the quality of the denim is perfect. I don't think there is anything missing from it. It literally could not possibly be any better. It is thin yes, but otherwise they wouldn't fit so great and the thinness allows the denim to be reasonably comfortable while remaining super skinny. Its stretchy and comfortable, but I still feel as if im wearing jeans.

    Colour? Its black.

    Zippers? They're fine, they zip. Im sure higher quality zippers could zip up in 0.98 seconds instead of the 0.96 seconds SLP zippers take

    Hardware? They stick in place, they don't fall off.

    The quality is as good as you can possibly expect without compromising the intended product/vision.

    I sincerely would like to know how you are judging "quality" on jeans such as these. Or if the word is just haphazardly thrown around all the time with no real meaning behind it.
     
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  12. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Well, I've worked with a fair number of denim specialists over the years now.

    So, let me premise this by saying that the cost of pretty much all designer and premium denim is not commensurate with the cost of cloth, trims, and manufacture, compared to any other category except for sneakers. i.e. for luxury brands like Saint Laurent, Dior, and Lanvin, jeans and sneakers are where the money is made. Just to compare. Denim costs between $1 and $30/meter, and you usually order it by the kilometer. At the super low end, you have your terrible fabric. But to get to $30, you have to do some pretty special things. I dunno. Virgins dip-dyeing it using their breasts or something. Suiting fabric starts at about $25/meter for decent stuff, and it goes up from there. Often, for the good stuff that big brands use, wholesale prices are $50-100/yard. This means that the cost of materials for the most expensive pair of jeans that you could possibly make is about as high as the least expensive pair of good quality suiting pants.

    The denim Saint Laurent uses is okay, but it's nothing special. There is nothing in the denim that would justify a high cost, and the Saint Laurent is not going to pay more just because it can. I would estimate that the denim that they use is... maybe, and I'm being generous here, $15/meter. This is not a bad thing. I mean, these are not jeans for denimheads, and really, what SLP wants is a basic, flat, denim that doesn't do something crazy, like fade to green, or something that might fascinate a denim nerd.

    The trims are decent, but again, nothing really special. Let's say $20 for the trims - this is assuming the best zippers, etc... And make is pretty elementary. Making a pair of really expensive, non-denim head jeans is not that different from making a pair of jeans for Walmart. For raw jeans, there is no additional cost from the washhouse.

    I mean, I don't feel that there is anything wrong with buying SLP jeans, but by the same token, you are paying nearly 100% for the design and the name, not for the denim or the workmanship or the wierd little gew gaws that fascinate denim nerds, but mean nothing to anyone else, and in fact, could be off putting, for many fashion customers. The same goes for my Visvim sneakers. I mean, yes, the leather and the make are marginally better than that of my Vans, and the sole is better quality, but there is really nothing other than the design and the name "Visvim" that really justify the $450 price difference between my Van slip ons and Visvim slip ons. I want the Visvims because I think that they look cool and also, tbh, because I'm a bit of a Visvim fanboy when it comes to some of their sneakers.

    Really, my point is that NO designer product is really "worth it", and that talking about whether something is "worth it" is an exercise in futility. Don't lambast guys who want a less expensive alternative. They could very well be getting the same "quality" product, just less expensive. I'm 99.9999999% sure that Zara could put out a pair of jeans that are indistinguishable from SLP jeans, sell them for less than $100, and still make decent money.

    It's enough to say that you like something. There is no need to justify why it's "perfect" or somehow objectively better, nor to sneer at someone who wants "the look for less."
     


  13. LA Guy

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    Fair enough. I looked at them, but was not really interested in buying, so I didn't bother to check the price. I know that the coated ones were north of $500, but that's about it.
     


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    I need advice for saint laurent skate sneakers sizing. Do they all run the same (baby cat, blood luster etc)? I am 11 US in regulars nikes (like air force 1). What size should i go with skate sneakers?

    Thanks in advance!
     


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    They should all run the same, my baby cats and tan suede ones do at least. I would go a half size down, I wear a 10.5 US in Nike and I wear a 43 in skates.
     
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