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I've seen quite some 'sample' jackets pop-up on grailed & ebay lately. Instead of a complete care tag, they have a sample tag:
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Does anyone have experience with these, know how to judge authenticity?
 

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I've seen quite some 'sample' jackets pop-up on grailed & ebay lately. Instead of a complete care tag, they have a sample tag:
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Does anyone have experience with these, know how to judge authenticity?
I think I'd stay away from that stuff personally. A lot of it is significantly cheaper than the mass produced items, which to me throws up red flags (the bad kind).
 
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Looking to buy a teddy jacket for a long time. Can someone please help me legit check this jacket?

Also, what price do you find appropriate? It's size F36 and apparently condition 9/10.

Thanks in advance!

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Which doesn't even make sense because this stuff is rarer by design, sometimes even 1 of 1 pieces

A sample is often shoddily finished, only comes in one sizing and might not have reached production, the general buying public will often not be familiar with the piece or doubt its authenticity (wrong/no tags etc.). It is also sold or given to people working at or nearer the brand so acquired for cheap. It might also have been used for a shoot and worn while rolling around in mud by a stylist for like two months before they were finally reached and had to return it so condition is not always great.

Honestly one time I was hanging out at the office of some brand well liked here and they found a jacket that had fallen behind a desk and were like "I don't remember wtf this is, do you want it or should I throw it away?"
 

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I recently acquired a pair of FW13 ochre cowboy wyatts. At first I thought they were fake but I compared them with other sample photos I found on grailed and they are the same. The shaft is much tighter than the production model. Got them for cheap because of glue stains from a crappy cobbler re gluing the soles.
 

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Is an accent over the 'e' in "fabrique" on the tag indicative of a fake? Or is it not that simple? Saw a tag like this on a leather and noticed a lot of other ones lack it.

Also, I think less than one thousand dollars is a decent price for your standard teddy jacket, especially if it's in unworn condition,
 

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outside of knits and jackets, do you guys hang or fold your shirts, tees, and other goodies?
 

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Looking to buy a teddy jacket for a long time. Can someone please help me legit check this jacket?

Also, what price do you find appropriate? It's size F36 and apparently condition 9/10.

Thanks in advance!

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"what price do you find appropriate" this question sounds odd given I guess you've already seen this listed somewhere at a price the seller has specified. If his price was $1500 (only an example), then me saying "$500" or "$3000" isn't going to help you at all. The condition seems ok, I can't see much (any?) pilling, but its got those white specks/dust in high wear areas - though I know that kind of stuff looks particularly unforgiving if flash was used to take the pictures.

Is an accent over the 'e' in "fabrique" on the tag indicative of a fake? Or is it not that simple? Saw a tag like this on a leather and noticed a lot of other ones lack it.

Also, I think less than one thousand dollars is a decent price for your standard teddy jacket, especially if it's in unworn condition,

I've just checked my teddy and another random SL jacket, neither have the accent over the e. That tag looks good to me.

On the fb group ("saint laurent buy sell trade") you might be able to find a new jacket that's a little over $1000 if lucky, there was one seller who was constantly churning out teddys (though he did say recently (his) prices were increasing).

So that's worth bearing in mind @alexanderdavide with respect to whatever your budget is -- and if it's budget that is the reason you're going for the female version over the male one as opposed to better personal fit.. maybe you should wait a little?

Is it only me or is Anthony killing it?

... it's just you

outside of knits and jackets, do you guys hang or fold your shirts, tees, and other goodies?

Button up shirts - appropriately sized hanger
Scarves - thrown into a corner
Boots - placed back into box with the wrapping provided to fill out the toebox/vamp (not excessively), unless they're leather boots I've recently/just worn, in which case I'd use shoe trees instead.
T-shirts - I literally only wear very cheap plain cotton t-shirts from Zara, OR, pricier SL silk tees. Zara ones get chucked in a corner and not often ironed, silk ones I'll loosely fold (or rather bunch up) and toss a little more gently into a cupboard -- I would not hang them due to delicacy (and lack of luxury space to hang everything, more this). If I did hang it would only be with broad hangers that don't leave the shoulders pinched.
 
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I've just checked my teddy and another random SL jacket, neither have the accent over the e. That tag looks good to me.
No, I meant the presence of the accented 'e' indicated a fake. The genuine tags seem to lack it, but I saw a tag for a leather jacket on Vestiaire that looked a little bit different in terms of the layout of the information, while having an accent on the 'e'. Did this change over time? Does it vary from garment to garment? I'm sorta new to the game of looking at authenticity.

Edit: on page 1248 someone claims that the accent doesn't indicate a fake, and that it varies from item.
 

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Is it only me or is Anthony killing it?

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If we look at the photography, Hedi's photographs are able to better highlight and capture your gaze onto the model. It feels like the image of the model is sharper than the background. It is subtle, but there is a sense where the model radiates. In this Saint Laurent campaign photo, the model doesn't stand out from the background, and both of them blend together. Perhaps the background choice was a bit too messy and not plain enough, so it feels visually distracting.

Styling-wise, I feel like Hedi has a better intuitive sense of what looks right. His understanding of how people dressed gives him more an ability to style clothing a bit more accurate. This whole look seems okay from afar, but on closer inspection there are a couple of things that throw me off. Why is the model wearing a dress shirt that needs cuff links paired with relaxed fit washed black denim? The fabric of the jacket feels a bit too sleek compared to the jeans. Hedi's fw19 look has a more substantial fabric for the coat and it feels like to meshes better with the washed blues in relaxed fit. The rangers also help bring the look together so it doesn't look too sleek and dressy. The look would be totally weird if rangers were swapped with Jacno 60s.

If you treat Anthony's items as separates, I think it is fine. Cropped peacoat with thinner fabric reminds me of ss13.
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The shirt would be nice for people who are looking for that kind of thing...same with the jeans. The only place I would dock marks off is the boots. They don't really look that sexy compared to Hedi's versions of heeled dress boots. It feels a bit rounder and less edgy.
 

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