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Trying out a couple saint Laurent leathers. still so fun. kind of torn between the two. black denim buttery leather, or cozy shearling. leather quality is out of this world on both.

maybe keep one, tempted by both, or pass on 'em. thanks for any thoughts.

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Both look great on you! But if forced to pick one, i would choose the black leather easily. While i love the color of the shearling, I'm personally not a fan of the shearling showing on the upturned neck. The black one drapes on your perfectly, can be dressed up and down. The only downside is that its most likely not as warm as the shearling.
 

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Trying out a couple saint Laurent leathers. still so fun. kind of torn between the two. black denim buttery leather, or cozy shearling. leather quality is out of this world on both.

maybe keep one, tempted by both, or pass on 'em. thanks for any thoughts.





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(In these outfits, first impressions, being brusque...):

That leather = virile young man wearing Reptile, sneaking out at 2am on a Thursday to break women’s hearts
That shearling = homemaker scented with Dove, nipping out to the backyard on a Sunday afternoon to collect wood

Don’t like the length of the sleeves/body on that leather, otherwise it’s gorgeous. How is the cut generally - does it feel cut tightly with high armholes etc? Could you have sized down one? I’ve got a black waxed denim jacket (thin/crisp (raw probably)) in the DJ-01 M cut from SL from 2013/14 which I get a lot of use out of in summer, very easy to just throw on and from afar easy to mistake for leather due to the waxing. This one feels like a step up though in that buttery lambskin (albeit it a bit busier with the extra seam lines and buttons on the front) - I like the softness/ruffling on the sleeves. So yeah, I’m very interested in your overall thoughts about it.
 
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Btw, I saw you posted/posed the question in the leather thread @SirGrotius. I dip in and out of there very occasionally to see what’s up but, do you think the kind of opinions you’ll get there could be corralled together with the thoughts of the usual suspects in this thread? If I wanted advice I’d probably not venture out of the safety net of this or the Celine thread, I’d just “trust” people’s opinions here more.
 

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Hey guys I was wondering if anyone had any experience in here cleaning the lining of a leather jacket themselves. Have been wearing both my l01 and l17 for a couple of years now and I think they’re due for a clean. Or does everyone here just take their learners to a leather specialist
 

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rk13 - I send my nice leather piece (and nice suits and blazers) to a specialist in NYC. If you need a rec in that area, feel free to PM me.

papillo and randeep - sage advice, and comments as always.

papillo - yes, the drape on the black leather is perfect, it feels so smooth and effortless to wear, although somewhat duplicative in that sense with a Dior black racer I have - but the saint Laurent is slimmer and with much different exterior styling. (still not sure how I feel about the buttons!). I could even probably wear it under a peacoat if that makes sense.

randeep - yes, I'm still not quite sure. I'm leaning ever so slightly toward holding onto the shearling, even though that aligns with the rec in the leather head thread (i.e., the Schott enthusiast thread, haha, which is usually anathema to me!).

the shearling, fully lined, is much more a departure from my usual look, which is about 90% cropped SLP blazers and Dior suits, with a bevy of slim cashmere sweaters or SLP slim peacoat in the fall/winter as needed. I occasionally wear the aforementioned black racer leather jacket but that's more of a layering piece, i.e., it's roomier.

the black leather is insanely soft and buttery and screams quality. very high arm holes, in fact, it's almost a problem, because if I wear a moderately thick sweater underneath, anything with more than a thinner substance, it's uncomfortable a) putting my hands in the side pockets, and/or b) reaching above my head. I guess this is the price of wearing something slim fitting, but I found it adhered to my body well. I think you're spot on that it's more of a warmer weather item in that sense.

the problem, and I agree, is that it's a bit long for my taste. a touch on the body, and a touch more on the sleeves, which annoys me. I like to have a little bit of shirt cuff or sweater to show, but the black leather covers my wrist for the most part. I might send it back on that point alone and try the Celine trucker I posted in that thread with the more discreet buttons, as people seem to say Celine is cut shorter? I don't have 100% faith in leather alterations, and don't feel like touch the body, maybe the sleeves alone.

not to make this a thesis, but I tend to overthink things such as this (esp when dropping this much money), so wondering if I'll actually use the shearling. I have a house where I have a woodpile and can fit that image that you mentioned outdoors, but there's zero chance I'm actually doing that type of activity, and since it's fully lined, to me, it seems or feels bulky. I suppose on this end, that's the price of warmth! also, very high arm holes and the top button annoyingly pops open if I reach up and am wearing something like a sweater underneath.

if you're familiar with SLP denim jackets from 2014, I have the classic blue denim, and the leather trucker is modeled maybe 100% on that item. it's a touch longer, but the armholes and sleeves are exactly the same. I wonder if leather arms will slink up a touch over time through wrinkling, although I wouldn't count on it.

thanks again for all the insights. I find the fit/quality discussions as fascinating as the higher ideals in this space, and am somewhat more challenged bereft of access to a local boutique.
 

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@Randeep: do you still have your l17 and l01's? I was looking through old pictures of this thread and think I saw some of you wearing them. I'm really debating getting one of those from teh Hedi era
 

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the shearling, fully lined, is much more a departure from my usual look, which is about 90% cropped SLP blazers and Dior suits, with a bevy of slim cashmere sweaters or SLP slim peacoat in the fall/winter as needed. I occasionally wear the aforementioned black racer leather jacket but that's more of a layering piece, i.e., it's roomier.

the problem, and I agree, is that it's a bit long for my taste. a touch on the body, and a touch more on the sleeves, which annoys me. I like to have a little bit of shirt cuff or sweater to show, but the black leather covers my wrist for the most part. I might send it back on that point alone and try the Celine trucker I posted in that thread with the more discreet buttons, as people seem to say Celine is cut shorter? I don't have 100% faith in leather alterations, and don't feel like touch the body, maybe the sleeves alone.

not to make this a thesis, but I tend to overthink things such as this (esp when dropping this much money), so wondering if I'll actually use the shearling. I have a house where I have a woodpile and can fit that image that you mentioned outdoors, but there's zero chance I'm actually doing that type of activity, and since it's fully lined, to me, it seems or feels bulky. I suppose on this end, that's the price of warmth! also, very high arm holes and the top button annoyingly pops open if I reach up and am wearing something like a sweater underneath.
The shearling paired with the brown suede jacket is great for an Americana look. Hedi definitely tapped into America for a lot of his direction at Saint Laurent and they're continuing with it. Perfect for somebody who wants to channel some All-American Cowboy feeling into their style.

Since you already have jackets in your wardrobe, plus how much these jackets cost, I think you can afford to be pickier and choosier on how new jackets you plan to add to your wardrobe fit on you. It makes sense for someone who doesn't have a jacket to have less need to be picky for utilitarian purposes.
 

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Can anyone ID this SLP jacket? Found it on google images. Can't find any other info on it.
Hopefully this will help your project. This is from ss13 where Hedi pushed a lot of variations of cafe racers. There are better pictures of the full jacket here: https://www.grailed[dot]com/listings/488270-saint-laurent-paris-lambskin-cafe-racer-jacket-sz48

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ss13 is definitely one of my favourite seasons.
 

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That was a great write-up @SirGrotius - thanks. Just one other thing - did you get your true size in this? Someone in one of the FB groups mentioned it and a couple of people corroborated that it is small to size/requires sizing up on (but don't know how many people confuse 'size up' with just '(intentionally) slim fitting'.

@Randeep: do you still have your l17 and l01's? I was looking through old pictures of this thread and think I saw some of you wearing them. I'm really debating getting one of those from teh Hedi era
I still have both jackets :) don't intend on giving up the classics (ever!). Any questions I'd be happy to help.
 

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Can't go wrong with the classics! Those will even get better with time.

I went TTS, 44. I'm a stickler with that, and don't like sizing up or down. I have this weird philosophy that if I don't fit in the designer's intended size, I'm not wearing it right, i.e., not a piece meant for me.

On a side note, I tried the Celine Trucker in Calf, but it was a horrendous fit on me. Way too big, but the sleeves and body length were better. Calf is much stiffer, so I'm going to try the lamb (slightly different trucker jacket) and see how that goes. After that I'll probably just keep one, as I'm finding it a bit of a hassle, I don't know how all of you deal with not being able to use boutiques. Too many boxes.
 

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