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Saint Laurent Paris - Official Thread.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by AriGold, Oct 4, 2012.

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  1. andrewgreg

    andrewgreg Senior member

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    Was in SLP boutique on rodeo yesterday to check out their new stuff. Those leather material on their jacket way better than other fashion designer brands (MMM Balenciaga etc), on par with old YSL but with nicer design. Some of their basic stuff are dull. Jeans are interesting, denim are thinner than Dior and softer. I didn't try on so couldn't comment on fit. Not impressed with their sneaker or the leather shoes.
     
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    was just in flagship in nyc, i agree on the shoes though i happen to like the sneakers, love the bags the rest of the stuff was meh, but comparable to what else is out there ill take it. btw dior store is always empty, wonder how long thats gonna last without a reboot.
     
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    The Dior store (at least here in Rodeo) is a bit intimidating to be honest, it just isn't very welcoming and I think that is why it is mostly empty.
     
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  4. ExAngel

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    I think their basics are the best offerings to be honest. The sneakers are great I think. The leather is really nice, and they're comfortable and super light..way lighter than common projects, minimal, very clever and tasteful branding. I've worn the white sneakers everyday for a month as beaters and they still look new and shiny. in the sun they are vibrant as fuck.

    The Raw jeans, i've worn in pretty much for a month straight as well and there is barely any stretch. Now that they're breaking in, i'm going to take them in to get tapered, but I really like the shape and cut, much more than dior. the diors are much better quality though as far as denim goes and are much thicker and seem to last longer. still, i like the way the slp jeans have a certain vibrance to them and the cut just looks cooler.

    the t shirts are expensive and somewhat cropped but i think they look really good paired up with the jeans. especially with the extra length at the top of the jeans. and the button downs are really great. I like the new side vents and the tab/placket at the bottom of the shirts are a nice touch. the material is great and like the jeans and shoes, they have a certain shine/sheen that I really enjoy.

    The outerwear pieces are cool, but I haven't really been sold on anything. Nothing too unique and the prices are mental. The shoes and boots are also a disappointment and I'm pretty sure are designed by the factory that makes balenciaga because the combat boots are identical. maybe we'll see something better down the line, but I doubt i'll be convinced on the footwear unless they collaborate with guidi or something.

    Just my 2 cents, I realize everything seems way too basic and topman or what not for the price, but I still think what you're really paying for is well designed, luxurious, simple, not too flashy and most importantly really well cut, almost tailored ready to wear items.
     
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  5. ExAngel

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    Yeah I used to go a lot and before SLP rebranded the guys at dior seemed much happier and talkative and willing to show you everything. They always had sales and were really good about keeping you up to date on new products.

    I went about a month ago and everyone looked miserable, nobody seemed to care about any of the products. They said the company had stopped doing sales and limiting availability to saks and boutique and the prices had gone up (bags starting at 3K). I think their way of competing with SLP is by raising the prices and making things exclusive, which might work for those with money to burn that care about brand image and are on some patrick bateman shit.

    That said, the quality of Dior stuff at the boutique did look relatively better and more luxurious than SLP but not at the prices they were charging.
     
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    I'm a fan of the leather used in the sneakers. I have both the black and white lows and feel they are aging very well, and the discreetness/distinction is very cool.

    I'm a big Dior guy and definitely notice a step up in the quality of some of the pieces. They're definitely going for the exclusive vibe, but it's almost too austere. Their best boutique is the one in Soho which is a little more accessible and hip. The Dior salespeople are much more experienced than the SLP ones I've spoken to in the past; the latter have been clueless about things such as canvasing of jackets and even the difference between Italian and American sizes in one case! :embar: I have a feeling the new SLP regime will address this.
     
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  7. ExAngel

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    Definitely, same over here (had to get both black and white lows).
    Agreed about Dior/SLP comparison. I remember the first month of the SLP transition, the SA's really didn't have much of a clue as to what denim was raw, or selvedge, etc. But now they have more people on board that seem trained on the items, although half the time I think they are just spouting off bullshit in the hopes that people will just buy the stuff and leave. At Dior they are much more dialed in on the details of every single item, most likely due to the fact that the BH Dior Homme boutique is the size of a walk in closet with a very limited selection of items, while the SLP boutique is a massive showroom catered to both men and women. I see many items flowing in and out of the place as well. Many of the items SA's didn't even know they had. I'm sure Hedi and co try to keep a level of secrecy as well so the employees probably don't know what the deal with half of the items are. I've been there at times where they are receiving new shipments and studying the garments for the first time right on the floor.
     
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    Really? I think footwear is the single most compelling piece of the new SL. So many lace-ups, boots, and sandals that I want. Then again, I also loved Hedi's shoes at Dior.



    The "no-sales" policy is killing them. It's one thing to charge $3k for a wool jacket when a competitor charges $2k, but it's something else entirely when the cheaper one gets marked down to $800 and the Dior variant is still $3000. I don't even bother looking in Dior boutiques anymore; I'm not going to pay retail, so why even look?
     
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    Agree with Rfx, I didn't bother to check out Dior on Rodeo yesterday because i think the store is a little intimidating.

    As for the product, I feel Dior still using more exclusive material than SLP.

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    I tried this yesterday. 2 reasons stop me buying.
    1. The material is like a towel. too thick for summer. 2. It's fit so small but it's way too short, even size XL. (more like a waistcoat length)
     
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    Is dior trying to be like a hermes? Sounds like it. If thats the case their clientele is likely not from walk-in shoppers anymore.
     
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    I went to the dior homme store in SoHo once and the personnel was very friendly. good experience.
     
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    You left out reason #3 - it's a sleeveless leather vest with a zipper around the neck.
     
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    only shoulder is leather. black material is cotton. I would buy it for sure if it's a full leather version.
     
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    The styling of each look is too literal bordering in costume and there's not much design with each garment that for sure will cost 5K each.
     
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    As someone that is pretty conservative, while trying to remain on the cusp of widely accepted and avante garde (keyword: Trying), i'm pretty paranoiac and always worrying about what others think of me (something i'm working on), I find everything in the SLP collection, even the flamboyant pieces, pretty wearable. Honestly, Half of the most flamboyant looks from SS14 are taken straight out of Undercover's SS13/Talking Heads collection.

    With the latest show, while there was nothing groundbreaking, I totally found myself saying, oh shit, i'll get that shirt, or those shoes are sick, and what not. I love Rick and Boris and a lot of avant garde designers but nothing from SS14 was desirable to me. The only other brand I think stood out the most out of everyone was Hermes and Haider, but those are beside the point.
     
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    When you went to the SLP store on Rodeo, did you see if they had gotten in a new shipment of the 15.5 cm black jeans yet? I placed a pre order for them months ago, in early May, and I'm worried my order has gotten lost in the shuffle.
     
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    I think we're basically the same person, except I wear a lot of Dior (not sure if you do too). I felt the same way about the latest shows (including Hermes).

    When one tries on SLP instead of worrying about Hedi, it's very wearable and doesn't stand out in a bad way at all but gives one a good edge.
     
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    Do you know if those have any stretch? 15.5cm is pretty rock n' roll.
     
  19. pickpackpockpuck

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    i've only given slp stuff a quick look in barney's (oh, and at jeffrey...saw the fall stuff there yesterday) but it did all seem nicely made. it was the design i wasn't particularly impressed with. the jackets are the only stand out items to me. hedi could always cut a sick jacket. but overall they're still too gaudy for my taste. one problem I have with the clothes, and those after party pics only reinforced this, is that it doesn't feel like clothing for adults. it's like wardrobe designed for rich kids of instagram. that's fine if you want to go that route, but it leads into another problem, which again those after party pics only confirmed: that it doesn't feel authentic. it's very contrived, like an adult imagining what so-called youth culture is like rather than being an accurate reflection of what kids actually wear and do. just look at pics of bands and the crowds at their shows. they look nothing like those after party pics. it's particularly galling to me because one of my favorite things about rock, punk, and indie is its history as a refuge for loser kids and weirdos. what hedi did at DH tapped into that; slp is for the insiders.

    regarding the DH boutiques, i don't find them inviting at all. i wander into the one in soho every so often and it feels like i'm interrupting something (what I'm not sure because i'm usually the only customer in there). maybe that's just my experience, though when I brought my wife in there she had the same impression. but i do think the quality of DH is really outstanding, at least the tailored stuff. cut and sew i'm not sure. i have a pair of recent wool trousers and everything about them, including the fabric, the construction (a lot of the detail is on the inside), and the cut is impeccable. i think it took kva a while to figure out what he was doing, but i think he did hit on something. of course i'm starting to think he's kinda passed his prime there and his last really good collection was fall 2012, but maybe he'll surprise me.
     
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  20. zeogo

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    I just bought the SLP highs in black half off, pretty excited to get them, but I'm still a little worried about what shades of denim they'll go with, they are very black. Anyone pulled them off with gray washed jeans? I'm planning on mostly wearing them with black and waxed jeans, and very dark indigo jeans.

    Since I got mine on sale, I'll share where else I've seen em on sale that I was keeping to myself before as i deliberated.

    You can get the black lows 40% off here -
    https://www.gebnegozionline.com/pag...Designer-/color-/size-/sort-/show-all/#/18204

    Highs 30% off here -
    http://www.gasmy.it/it/uomo/saint-laurentcalzature-5078390ave.html

    Smaller discounts here-
    http://www.raffaello-network.com/raffties/detail.php?itemid=244257&rangeid=674
    http://www.atelieronweb.com/ita/collezione-uomo-CO-Saint_Laurent_Paris:_Sneakers_Alte_Nere

    (there are other SLP styles available on the above sites also)
     

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