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Sagara Shoes from Indonesia

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Conventum, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. TooAwesome

    TooAwesome Senior member

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    Conventum, how tiu liking then after 3 days?

    Can you address how they fit size wise? I know he says to go down one on the Edward last. Did you do that? And how'd that go?

    So......are we 100% sure that its corrected grain and not calfskin? Can someone aware me on how bad corrected grain is?

    How is it allowed that they can false advertise like that if its true? :/ guess its less regulated there
     
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  2. gsugsu

    gsugsu Senior member

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    That is the price of doing business with them. Either it is acceptable or it isn't.
     
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  3. Lumaca

    Lumaca Active Member

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    I just checked their website and the first thing that came to mind was: "WHO the hell name their shoes 'THE MANHOOD'???"
     
  4. TooAwesome

    TooAwesome Senior member

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    does 'the penis' sound better?
     
  5. Lumaca

    Lumaca Active Member

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    Yeah, no need to beat around the bush [​IMG]

    Speaking about the brand, I'll probably swing by the store in Jakarta to check on some manhoods. I've heard that a couple of new local brands just started popping up recently, all with the same story: good construction, bad leather. I'm afraid there's no regulating what can be called Calfskin (I mean, it's the skin of a calf, so technically, it's calfskin).
     
  6. JTA

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    Has anyone got any experience with their rough out leather?
     
  7. CTBrummie

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    Priceless.

    They'll probably be too shiny, will have nasty creases after a few uses and will look dull after a year or two. As for the CG shoes, it's anyone's guess.
     
  8. Conventum

    Conventum Well-Known Member

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    I like the boots. The LWB are rubbing on the side of my feet. Right underneath the ball shaped bone on my leg that connects to my feet. I like to wear oxfords and loafers without socks, but now I need to consider on wearing socks until they break in.

    The fit for the shoes are pretty much what is advertised on their site. If you talk to them, they'll help you with sizing questions, but they're just going to tell you what's on their site. The only fitting issue was that both pair's left shoe was a bit tight on the instep, but after walking around in them, I didn't notice any discomfort.

    In my review I already stated that the shoes are CG. Just because they are CG, doesn't mean they're not calf skin. There are plenty of discussions and info on CG on the web, just do a google search and you'll find a lot of info on the subject.

    They didn't falsely advertise. The leather is CG calf skin. They don't have to call it corrected grain. If you ask shoe companies about their leathers, they'll tell you which of their shoes are CG or not.

    As I have said before, if you want the best leather available from them, get any shoe made from pull up leather. I think the rough leather they have will feel cheap.

    When I have some spare time, I'll try to post a close up shot of the creasing on the shoes.
     
  9. TooAwesome

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    Are there any better alternatives that look like the imperial III/legacy III? But in better quality leather and still <$200?
     
  10. Lumaca

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    You'll pretty much get charged more if you're buying in dollar, not to mention shipping.
     
  11. TooAwesome

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    That doesn't make sense at all....if that were the case then just convert your money then pay. The thing I'd that they're charging an extra ~$40 on top before shipping (and the 5%)

    I'm fine with $135+50 shipping but with that extra $40 I just feel cheated, even more so now that we know its CG
     
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    I don't know if you understood my last reply. If you don't want CG, get the pull-up leather. Pull-up leather is really nice. Leathers such as English bridle or Chromexcel have pull-up and they aren't CG. If you get scratches or blemishes in pull-up leather, you can use a shoe brush and polish to make the leather look new again.

    In the beginning of this video, you can see the Dunhill craftsman brush the leather and you can see a difference in the color. I can't say how good Sagara's pull-up is, but I don't think it can be that bad. My failure was hoping that the calf skin wasn't CG and CG didn't occur to me until after I made a purchase. Otherwise I would've ordered the Imperial and Capital in Pull-Despite my slight disinterest in the colors.
     
  13. TooAwesome

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    They don't have it in the imperial III/legacy III. also its not on sale, made to order would be too expensive.

    What IS their MTO price?
     
  14. Conventum

    Conventum Well-Known Member

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    Imperial I - Dark Brown pull-up
    Legacy IV - Cigar pull-up

    The Legacy III is clearly not corrected grain.
     
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    You are being too kind for an SFer. Basically apart from Churchs binder we don't do CG on SF FWIW.
     
  16. Conventum

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    Well, I see it more as a learning experience. People can talk about it and describe it, but feeling and living with CG or shell cordovan helps you distinguish the variances. I'm sure a lot of the CG haters have experienced CG in the past. This is my first time. Let me get a chance to hate it too... properly.
     
  17. TooAwesome

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    pretty sure the imperial i's are out of stock and the legacy iv has a lug sole where i want a dress sole.

    the legacy iii was actually my first choice but they said theyre out of stock when i messaged them

    [​IMG]


    these MTO dark brown horsebutt chromexcel look hnnng
     
  18. Conventum

    Conventum Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what to tell you. You can try to message Sagara, but I'm pretty sure you won't hear back from them until 2013 lol! In the mean time, you can save up for the shoes.

    It'd be cool to buy Chromexcel from Maverick Leather and ship it to Sagara to make a pair haha. Then wait until 2014 to get them hahaha!
     
  19. TooAwesome

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    lol its not the matter of saving up but a matter of budget and if i feel theyre worth the cost. im looking for a pair of full grain leather, cap toe, boots with a dress sole (with a micro rubber sole so i dont fall in the winter) for around $200.

    ill let you guys know when the guy or sagara gets back to me about the MTO boots
     
  20. Conventum

    Conventum Well-Known Member

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    Don't hold your breath lol!
     

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