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Ryanair to introduce $30 London/NYC service

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by von Rothbart, Apr 13, 2007.

  1. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Senior member

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    Ryanair is to introduce $30 between London & NYC, and that's round trip, cheaper than to ship a pair of EG across the pond. All thanks to "open sky" treaty just signed between US & EU which allows any EU airlines to fly anywhere in EU into US:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=business
     
  2. JetBlast

    JetBlast Senior member

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    I've also seen stuff about Ryanair flying to "secondary" destinations, the nearest to me being Baltimore. I don't really think anyone knows how the OS agreement will affect the respective airlines, the only problem may be with too much traffic at the airport resulting in passenger overloads and delays.

    JB
     
  3. Stazy

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    Peace of mind, safety, comfort, and customer service are all factors that keep me far, far away from Ryanair.
     
  4. vc2000

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    I've heard company employees joke that they want to charge 0 for flights but make it up on everything else. Fees for luggage, booking, basically everything the North American flyer expects for free is going to be billed to the customer. Isn't checking a bag some large fee? I've never flown them but I thought it was either 70 dollars or 70 pounds for a bag. Please correct me if I am wrong.
     
  5. Stazy

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    I've heard company employees joke that they want to charge 0 for flights but make it up on everything else. Fees for luggage, booking, basically everything the North American flyer expects for free is going to be billed to the customer. Isn't checking a bag some large fee? I've never flown them but I thought it was either 70 dollars or 70 pounds for a bag. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    Each checked bag costs 6 Euros and you pay 9 euros for every kg over the 15 kg allowance. (BA's allowance starts at 23 kg).
     
  6. seanchai

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    NOOOOOO
    NOOOOOO

    I'll probably fly it one day, and then repeatedly, but I WON'T LIKE IT!

    Which is exactly what O'Leary wants - dissatisfied customers with no reasonable alternatives.
     
  7. Trilby

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    Hard to imagine them offering many tickets at this price. Some of the key aspects of the low cost model don't work as well on long haul routes - e.g., having very short turnaround times to keep the planes productive in the air as much as possible. They also don't get the benefit of very high business/first fares providing a steady revenue flow.

    That said, I wonder how low transatlantic fares could go and still run a profitable business. I'm guessing they still make a small profit when fares are really low over the winter, so the breakeven point is probably a little lower than that.

    Also important to remember that taxes make up a hefty chunk of the current fares. Don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I expect a base fare of $30 NYC/LON prices out close to $200 after all the taxes are added.
     
  8. edmorel

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    At what point over the Atlantic do they push you out and you have to swim the rest of the way?
     
  9. imageWIS

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    At what point over the Atlantic do they push you out and you have to swim the rest of the way?

    LMAO. [​IMG]

    Jon.
     
  10. jett

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    Uh - $30 from NYC to London?!?! That's cheaper than the shuttle service to the airport. That's an unbelievable price.
     
  11. JetBlast

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    For 30 bucks they might as well fly you to the western coast of England, drop you off, and pick you up when you reach America.

    JB
     
  12. Lucky Strike

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    NOOOOOO NOOOOOO I'll probably fly it one day, and then repeatedly, but I WON'T LIKE IT! Which is exactly what O'Leary wants - dissatisfied customers with no reasonable alternatives.
    I agree, but you have to admit that this Steerage Airlines is working well for him...
     
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    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/ Seems they have some continental EU flights for just one pence if you book by tonite. Something fishy... suicidebomb4less.co.uk
     
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    Seems they have some continental EU flights for just one pence if you book by tonite. Something fishy...

    Not really. They do this all the time. But the free tickets are only on the least desirable flights. Typically they leave Stansted at something like 5 or 6 in the morning. The catch is that it's not possible to come from London via public transportation that early in the morning. You have to either spend the night sleeping in the airport, at a hotel nearby, or live closer than London.
     
  15. Stazy

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    Not really. They do this all the time. But the free tickets are only on the least desirable flights. Typically they leave Stansted at something like 5 or 6 in the morning. The catch is that it's not possible to come from London via public transportation that early in the morning. You have to either spend the night sleeping in the airport, at a hotel nearby, or live closer than London.

    If public transportation is not available, Ryanair usually provides their own buses, which is probably how they make money off these flights.
     
  16. faustian bargain

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    google maps -> New York, New York to London, England.

    read step 24.
     
  17. JetBlast

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    That's Ryanair's new plan of action, faustian [​IMG]

    JB
     
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    Might just be worth it to watch a football match once a week or so. [​IMG]
     
  19. Connemara

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    One of the very few reasons I am ashamed to be Irish is Ryanair.
     
  20. tiger02

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    One of the very few reasons I am ashamed to be Irish is Ryanair.
    Have you ever flown it? Seriously, I don't get all this hate for RyanAir. So its customers sacrifice comfort and service for the sake of a cheap ticket. Why is this a problem? I've flown ~18 legs on RyanAir over the last four years, and every flight has been exactly what I was looking for--a cheap way to get somewhere new and leave more money in the wallet for actually being there. Every flight is packed, especially the ones to Poland and Latvia and those sorts of places. Unlike the major airlines, they operate in a competitive marketplace, with at least a dozen other low cost carriers. IMO, the more air travel can get rationalized and brought out of the stone age, the better for everyone. Ideally it would look just like train or bus travel, with the ability to walk up ten minutes before the flight and get on board.
     

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