Many questions and things learnt here. 1 - I took some sh1t from certain people here but I understand it's part of the initiation. That's fine with me and in fact, I enjoyed it because there's nothing worse than creating a thread everyone ignores. So being flamed is at least something and I have a sense of humour too. 2 - Some very interesting answers and a very good point about assistants re-arranging actors' clothes before a scene. I hadn't thought of that. 3 - I live in London, UK and almost all the shops I've been to have wide spread, cutaway collars which I don't like because a) I don't wear a tie and b) they don't suit my face. 4 - When I found the collars I wanted (narrow point, slightly larger collars) they were on hideously stripy/check shirts which are inexplicably all the rage in this city these days. 5 - Hence my desperation at finding 'the perfect collar' and posting here. Now I now what to do. 6 - I'm not gay but I admit having a man-crash on RG. I'm sure there are many like me.