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Roping or no roping?

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Here is a picture of what my tailor essentially makes me when I ask for a suit.



I am thinking about trying some roping, so I did a mock up in Photoshop. What do you all think? (I do not intend to have just the one made up like that!)



Also, does anyone think I could perhaps go a bit larger in the shoulders? My left (right on screen) sleeve needs a press I think.

PS I adjusted the lighting on these so that the otherwise very dark navy cloth came out well.

Happy new year :)
 

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Roping is the new SF shoulder for 09 - my second suit from Chan will have the roping..
 

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Ah, PG -- excellent choice. I have not seen it very often, but find it quite attractive when well executed.

You say second suit, does this mean you already have your first?
 

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Originally Posted by AndrewRogers
Ah, PG -- excellent choice. I have not seen it very often, but find it quite attractive when well executed.

You say second suit, does this mean you already have your first?

- I have 2 on order, 1st one is soft current SF standard & my first fitting is next week when I get back to HKG
- 2nd one is in the planning stages for Feb/Mar
- my thinking is to have the suits with roping for more formal situations & the soft for everyday & travel as I can then split the jackets etc.
 

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Roped shoulders are fantastic, almost all my jackets have them to some degree. I love the architectural quality they give, along with high gorges and peak lapels.
 

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i like the look of roping on suits for business. here is a suit of mine with roping.
 

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All of my commissions (Huntsman, Chan, A-man) are with slight roping and a more structured shoulder. I've had essentially the same basic cut for a decade or so. I know the 'SF Standard' is for soft shoulders, I just can't buy into it. Chan has my pattern perfected now, its just a shame they cant do CMT work (anymore).

Having said that, in the second image the roping is a tad excessive for my liking.
 

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Hate to disagree, but looks far better without and I do not think it enhances
so-called formality.
 

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When you notice it on other people and yourself you may give it some thought but I don't think most people even in business notice this much of if it adds to the formality of it
 

DocHolliday

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I like roping in the right context. The suit needs a bit of drama to it so that the roping isn't just stuck there by itself. For example, roping can look nice with a good bit of waist suppression, a stronger shoulder and a flared skirt.

At the same time, it's possible to lapse into caricature. It can be tricky business.
 

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I tend to not like roping in general, but I've seen it done better in some instances than others. I hate to say it, but I think it looks a little better with a concave insellata shoulder line, a la Tom Ford, than with a natural or more straight shoulder line. A concave shoulder line swoops down and than up, as if to sugges the mound of the roped sleevehead. On the other hand, the other two shoulder lines make it look like the sleeve of a roped sleevehead has just been tacked onto the body sidewise, like on a cheap toy where the arms can only rotate in vertical circles.
 

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Originally Posted by mafoofan
I tend to not like roping in general, but I've seen it done better in some instances than others. I hate to say it, but I think it looks a little better with a concave insellata shoulder line, a la Tom Ford, than with a natural or more straight shoulder line. A concave shoulder line swoops down and than up, as if to sugges the mound of the roped sleevehead. On the other hand, the other two shoulder lines make it look like the sleeve of a roped sleevehead has just been tacked onto the body sidewise, like on a cheap toy where the arms can only rotate in vertical circles.

Why? I think you are absolutely right. Roping looks terrible with a natural shoulder.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Why? I think you are absolutely right. Roping looks terrible with a natural shoulder.

Because it means Tom Ford did something right. I have semi-natural shoulders with roping from before I started ordering bespoke--the only reason they aren't so bad is because the roping is relatively subtle.
 

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