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Road bike suggestions?

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by imageWIS, Sep 7, 2006.

  1. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    I meant upgrading things like bottom brackets, headsets, forks, seat posts, etc. C-Dale makes an well engineered and constructed frame, but as far as I know in the past, used propertary sizes for their forks, seatposts, bottom brackets etc. so you're basically stuck with whatever they gave you. If you want to upgrade into lighter and/or better parts you're SOL. I don't know if this is still the case, but upgrading doesn't seem to be a priorty to you so...

    A.


    Well, not SOL, there are adapter rings (how else do they use Shimano components?)...but yeah, the usage of adapter rings is a necessity. At the same time, since I don't want to upgrade, I am unsure as to what to get.

    The C-Dale R700 the dealer had (which I tested and was really fast) has a CAAD 8 frame, which I have read online is a better frame than the 1500's SLR, but the 1500 has Shimano 105's all around (9 spd), whereas the R700 uses 105's, except for the crank, which is a TruVatiV Elita 2.2 and the rear derailleur, which is Ultegra (so, it shifts like the 105, but weighs less).

    At the same time the new CAAD 9 uses 105's all around...but I'm now looking at about $1600!

    Also, any advice as to how the bike should fit? According to the 3 dealers I went to they all said I was a 52cm, but I felt like I was putting a lot of weight onto my shoulders when I tested the R700: am I just not used to riding in that position?

    Jon.
     
  2. Renault78law

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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. Lots of factors to consider. Seat position, seat angle, seat height, stem height, stem lengh, stem angle, handlebar angle, placement of hoods. They'll fit you when you buy the bike (at least I hope they do) to make it comfy. You should be able to find the exact same position on either frame with minor adjustments.
     
  3. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. Lots of factors to consider. Seat position, seat angle, seat height, stem height, stem lengh, stem angle, handlebar angle, placement of hoods. They'll fit you when you buy the bike (at least I hope they do) to make it comfy. You should be able to find the exact same position on either frame with minor adjustments.

    Well, everyone said that the 50cm was too small...all the shops I went to will fit me and adjust everything as needed.

    Jon.
     
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    And? Info?

    Jon.

    Seem like a pretty good value. I also like the compact crankset - 50-34 instead of 52-39.

    http://www.feltracing.com
     
  5. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. Lots of factors to consider. Seat position, seat angle, seat height, stem height, stem lengh, stem angle, handlebar angle, placement of hoods. They'll fit you when you buy the bike (at least I hope they do) to make it comfy. You should be able to find the exact same position on either frame with minor adjustments.

    Update:

    I tried both the Trek 1500 and the C-Dale R700, and here are my pros and cons:

    R700:

    Pros) Great frame, 23c tires, faster than the 1500, probably due to the thinner tire size and frame lightness, ultrega rear derailleur felt a tiny bit smoother than the 1500's 105, but it was really negligible

    Cons) Could not fit right on the bike; first time I took it out I felt all the weight on my shoulders, so the shop tried a shorter stem and tilted the hoods up a bit and made sure the seat wasn't angled back, which instead of relieving the weight from my shoulders, shifted the weight to my upper back / lower neck.

    1500:

    Pros) All-around good bike, it has a better (IMHO) crank than the R700, Shimano 105 vs. SRAM Truvativ, I was able to fit properly on it and it did not feel like all the weight was on my shoulders.

    Cons) Not as fast as the R700; frame is obviously not as well made as the C-Dale's.

    Conclusions: like the C-Dale more, but I felt the weight on my shoulders with the long stem and I felt the weight of my upper back / lower neck with the shorter stem...is it just that the R700 needs to be fine tuned to me, OR should I get the 1500 since I was able to ride on it without any problems?

    Jon.
     
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    I always think it is strange that people who are new to road bikes want to buy an new one. You will learn so much after riding one for a while. Everytime you take it in to the shop for a tune up you learn more. If you go on group rides you learn much, much more from the other riders. Then you add the fact that new features and technology are coming out all the time. I can pretty much garantee that you will out grow any bike you purchased now within a year just because you will find out more about what would work for you.

    Bikes depreciate just like cars. Take a new bike out of the shop and instantly it depreciates 25%. Why not go on craigslist or a bike forum and get a nice used bike. After having it a while and learning about what you like and don't like, and what will really work for you, you can sell it (and probably get back 90% of what you paid) and get something perfect.
     
  8. twblalock

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    You seem to fit better on the Trek, which is very important. If changing the Cannondale stem didn't help, then you should not get that bike. You won't be faster on it if you are in pain.

    If you don't like the rear derailer or tire size, those are trivial to change. You can easily do it yourself or just get the shop to do it before you buy the bike. They might give a discount.

    Get the 1500 and have them slap on an Ultegra rear derailer.

    I personally think that the Trek frames are about as good as the Cannondale frames. Exposed welds and the like have nothing to do with quality, believe it or not. Quality of a bike frame is determined by the quality of the tubing used and the geometry of the frame "diamond" (ie the length of the tubes and the angles between them).
     
  9. jwm

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    You get more bike for the buck with Giant. Specialized gives good value as well. Both offer compact frames which should feel compatible with your mountain bike. My sympathies on losing your favorite trail. I'm a mountain biker too. Good luck.
     
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    I would also say get a used bike at first, but if you must buy new buy what fits you. In the future you'll start making excuses not to ride because the bike doesn't fit and causes you pain. Good luck.
     
  11. Mentos

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    As far as quality, you won't go wrong with any bike made by specialized, giant, trek, cannondale, felt, or a number of other makers. Bike building is now so efficient that it's barely an issue.

    You're not going to race on this bike, so you don't need top parts. A lot of cheap road bikes have carbon forks and posts, and 105's only on the back. You won't win any points from the bike nazis for riding one of these, but it will be more than enough to go fast and get fit. If you need a racing bike, you can then worry about what Lance rides.

    Fit is far more of a concern on an entry bike. This includes some things that any good bike shop can account for, such as frame size, and some things that they can't account for because you don't know them yet, such as whether you prefer a touring feel in your road bike or how you want your shifting to feel. That's why some people say you should go used first--get your preferences worked out before you invest a lot.

    If you're set on buying a new bike, I'd say just pick a price point and have your shop lay out five bikes to ride. You'll probably end up on one that you wouldn't have expected from reading specs, and loving it. That's what I did, and I love my cheapie (Specialized Allez Sport--$900).
     
  12. MrRogers

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    Same as with sportcoats, fit (position) is everything. I have a custom colnago masterlight frame that I was measured for in Italy several years ago. Its a steel frame and even a little on the heavy side but draggin it up hills after 50 miles in a comfortable position makes up for it.

    If I were you id go with the C'dale. I find their frame geometry to be very responsive and transfer alot of power in sprints. I understand that you are not looking to be competitive on this bike but everyone likes a quick car despite not being a race car driver, no?

    MrR
     

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