RM Williams Boots - Everything You Wanted to Know

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  1. gopherblue

    gopherblue Senior member

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    Redder than the chestnut, supposedly. I must say, though, that my last pair in chestnut (which I exchanged for size reasons) definitely had a more reddish/burgundy tone than I wanted, so much so that I really thought it was the claret color. I asked about it at the NYC store, and they said that there is some variation in the color. I am hoping that my replacement pair is a browner shade of chestnut.
     


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    I just picked up a pair of the Yearling Craftsman in Chestnut at Australia Fair in San Francisco. They have a sale going (10% off) and got mine for ~$390 all in. Great service from a guy named Andy (not an Aussie) but very cool. I am wearing them as I type this and they are truly as comfortable as everyone says! I'm taking them out tonight but so far no regrets.
     


  3. lawyerdad

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    canceled my order.
    steve said the leather supplier is having quality issues with the whiskey leather. the earliest shipment of materials would be late april.
    screw that...i'll just get a regular pair from the NY store.


    Probably prudent, extrapolating from my experience (which included several successive, alternative explanations for non-delivery).
     


  4. skalogre

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    Redder than the chestnut, supposedly. I must say, though, that my last pair in chestnut (which I exchanged for size reasons) definitely had a more reddish/burgundy tone than I wanted, so much so that I really thought it was the claret color. I asked about it at the NYC store, and they said that there is some variation in the color. I am hoping that my replacement pair is a browner shade of chestnut.

    Thank you. I think I may have to get a pair of claret Comfort Craftsman boots. Hmm. Maybe I should start a PBS-style donation drive [​IMG]
     


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    Just Curious . . . Has anyone ordered a nailed sole on the chisel toe last? I like the chisel toe last but I don't like when you see so much of the welt when looking down from the top.
     


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    I was surprised to see one of my friends had a pair of RM Williams boots sitting out a few weeks ago and was like "Holy crap! Those are RM Williams..." He was pretty surprised I knew what they were; he said he got them in a really nice area of Sydney at their store.

    As far as fitting and details go, what is the sleekest sole/last? (ie: not a high cuban heel and no sides of the sole protruding) with the brass screws? Also, which leathers are shinier/more dress shoe like.

    Sizing: My feet are pretty narrow but all my shoes (all RTW) are normal width. My size in 11D in my Lucchese 1881 cowboy boots (they were snug at first now a bit loose), Reef Sandals and Cole Haan Oxfords. However, a pair of sneakers are size 10US/43EU/9UK.

    That sizing chart was confusing since none of my shoes are AE, etc...

    These boots look really cool, plus I'm a Beatle fan, and ankle boots are hard to find where I live. How does everyone like the screwed soles? Most people don't really talk about this...
     


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    I've switched to using Saphir Medaille D'or 1925 polish on my whiskey coloured, Comfort Craftsman boots.

    The product details are:

    Jaune Cire. Wax Yellow
    # 53

    It doesn't look yellow to me [​IMG]

    I had also been using RM Williams Saddle & Leather Dressing. However, this always seemed to create a build up that 'cracked' when the leather flexed. Using Saphir Renovateur + the Wax Yellow, I no longer have this problem.

    My boots have never looked better [​IMG]
     


  8. palladio211

    palladio211 Well-Known Member

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    I have size and comfort questions for any RMW experts out there.

    I have two pairs of RMW Craftsman boots. My first pair I bought in brown suede. I find them a bit hard in the sole so that they can be tiresome after long walks on pavement in the city. I wish they had a bit more cushion around the ball of the foot area.

    So I ordered a pair of comfort Craftsman in black. This sole is more comfortable but is much clunkier looking. It really detracts from the profile of the boot.

    I am usually a US size 11 C, and both my pairs of RMW's are the recommended conversion of 10F (this was the size recommended by the salesman in their NYC store). However, I find both pairs a bit cramped in the toe after a long day. Should I consider going with a 10.5 F? I have a narrow foot overall but a bit blocky/wide set of toes. I also wonder whether this is just a factor of the last shape, or perhaps because the slightly higher heel pushes my foot forward when walking.

    I was also thinking about buying another set of the regular Craftsman a bit larger and putting some sort of cushion insole inside. I don't really like the look of the comfort model.

    Any thoughts on this would be apreciated.
     


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    I have size and comfort questions for any RMW experts out there. I am usually a US size 11 C, and both my pairs of RMW's are the recommended conversion of 10F (this was the size recommended by the salesman in their NYC store). However, I find both pairs a bit cramped in the toe after a long day. Should I consider going with a 10.5 F? I have a narrow foot overall but a bit blocky/wide set of toes. I also wonder whether this is just a factor of the last shape, or perhaps because the slightly higher heel pushes my foot forward when walking. I was also thinking about buying another set of the regular Craftsman a bit larger and putting some sort of cushion insole inside. I don't really like the look of the comfort model.
    I am all over the place size-wise, but I have very narrow (B) feet, and wear a size 12B New Balance running shoe and 10.5C or 11C Johnston & Murphy dress shoe. I went with a 10.5F Blaxland, which is the Craftsman with the rubber sole (but regular leather insole). This size is still a bit too big for my low-volume, narrow foot, so I added a cushion insole to take up the space and add comfort. So far, it seems to be working. I live in NYC, so the rubber sole was a real selling point to me since I walk all the time. That said, if you don't want the rubber sole for aesthetic reasons, just get the standard sole and add the insole.
     


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    any place to check some of these out in socal area, preferrably around orange county area?
     


  11. UTVol085

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    They only sell them in NYC and Australia I believe.
     


  12. palladio211

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    I am all over the place size-wise, but I have very narrow (B) feet, and wear a size 12B New Balance running shoe and 10.5C or 11C Johnston & Murphy dress shoe. I went with a 10.5F Blaxland, which is the Craftsman with the rubber sole (but regular leather insole). This size is still a bit too big for my low-volume, narrow foot, so I added a cushion insole to take up the space and add comfort. So far, it seems to be working. I live in NYC, so the rubber sole was a real selling point to me since I walk all the time. That said, if you don't want the rubber sole for aesthetic reasons, just get the standard sole and add the insole.

    Gopherblue. Thanks for the very helpful advice. I dropped by the RMW store and tried your solution. I went with a 10.5 and added a cushioned insole, which seemed to do the trick! I too am really around a B width in the heel area but my toes are a bit wider. A very hard foot to fit.

    I bought a pair of 10.5 F round toe boots with a rubber sole and the oiled leather (I think it is either called the "Gardener" or "Yard Boot"). I'm going to try these to replace some of my riding paddock boots and for general casual use. I live in NYC, and I think the rubber sole and extra cushioned insole combination should work well for lots of walking.

    By the way, Ariat (makers of equestrian boots and riding stuff) makes a really nice cushioned insole that sells for around $20. I think it's a better insole than most of the ones sold at shoe stores.
     


  13. gopherblue

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    By the way, Ariat (makers of equestrian boots and riding stuff) makes a really nice cushioned insole that sells for around $20. I think it's a better insole than most of the ones sold at shoe stores.

    Can you recommend a place in NYC to try out the Ariat insole? I'm still looking for a better insole than the one I have.
    Thanks!
     


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    Has anyone who has ordered the Forum special from Nungar in a color other than whiskey suffered problems similar to those Lawyerdad did?
     


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    In case anyone finds this useful, pics of three RMW models side by side. Stockman (in chestnut), Craftsman (in dark tan) and Comfort Craftsman (in claret). The latter is practically unworn. The flash makes them seem lighter than they really are. And yes, a good polish is needed [​IMG] Seems that the Comfort Craftsman is, indeed a little more bulbous or should I say, taller at the toe box, probably so that the padded sole would fit inside. Naturally, the shape will probably change after a week or two, just like it happened with the Craftsman. As a point of comparison, I also have the Stockman, which is in size 9F (AUS). The other two are in size 9G (AUS). [​IMG] [​IMG] Trying to show here the difference in height; the length difference is due to the angle. Standard Craftsman in front. [​IMG] [​IMG] P.s. the Comfort Craftsman got here in 11 days from order (from Nungar).
     


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