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RM Williams Boots - Everything You Wanted to Know

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Sator, Sep 18, 2006.

  1. Sator

    Sator Senior member

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    Sator

    How does the kangaroo leather wear? I have 2 boots made in the yearling leather and was not impressed with them. The leather creases too easily and also peels away like an orange skin if it gets nicked or scratched. I love the style, comfort and construcion of them, but their yearing leather really lets them down.


    Kangaroo leather has a reputation for being as tough as nails.

    I've fortunately never had this problem with the yearling leather.
     
  2. Stu

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    Sator: Perhaps the best, most informative thread of the year. Thank you for taking your time to educate us. But damn you because now I really want a pair of Williams boots and it's going to put me in more debt and it's all your fault. [​IMG]

    Just a question, do you use the Craftsman in Kangaroo with suits? Or is it not quite dressy enough for that?
     
  3. Sator

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    Sator: Perhaps the best, most informative thread of the year. Thank you for taking your time to educate us. But damn you because now I really want a pair of Williams boots and it's going to put me in more debt and it's all your fault. [​IMG]

    Just a question, do you use the Craftsman in Kangaroo with suits? Or is it not quite dressy enough for that?


    Interesting question that one about wearing Chelsea boots with a suit. It is quite common here in Sydney. Beau Brummell wore equestrian boots when in full dress and Chelseas boots are equestrian boots.

    I think the chestnut kangaroo leather looks very dressy. It has a really nice rich colour - even nicer than the yearling. If you wear brown shoes with suits then this would look pretty sharp. The most polished and dressiest looking leather in their catalogue is easily the black French veal calf. The black kangaroo looks much grainier.
     
  4. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    It would be great if we could get some good shots of broken-in RMW boots. Point me if there are some already.
     
  5. Sator

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    It would be great if we could get some good shots of broken-in RMW boots. Point me if there are some already.

    Hi J. Glad you liked the post.

    Here are a couple of older threads that have good pics (including some of my own):

    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=16721

    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=18409

    It's interesting that they can hold their own sitting side by side with a pair of Vass chukka boots. As you can see, you can just about wear them with anything.
     
  6. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Thanks for the great post. I have two pairs of RMWs. They are by far my favorite boots - mostly because they fit my narrow, flat feet really well. I have a pair of chestnut Yearling Yard boots (nailed rubber soul, round toe) which are great with jeans and pair of the sleeker dark tan suede Craftsman boots (which I also wear with jeans but they look good with narrow trousers as well). Now, of course, I'll have to get a pair in Kangaroo, too. [​IMG]
     
  7. saint

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    Does RM Williams charge more for MTO, and if so, how much?
     
  8. Rolo

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    Does RM Williams charge more for MTO, and if so, how much?

    I've got an email into Steve asking about Simpsons in Kangaroo which I'm assuming would have to be MTO. We'll see what he says.
     
  9. Sator

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    Does RM Williams charge more for MTO, and if so, how much?
    If you order directly from RM Williams (showroom@rmwilliams.com.au) they will charge a $35 AUD surcharge for their Chelsea boots and $45 for a top boot. They also ask for %50 payment up front. But Steve does things differently.
     
  10. Sator

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    I've got an email into Steve asking about Simpsons in Kangaroo which I'm assuming would have to be MTO. We'll see what he says.

    Watch out! The Simpson is made on a tricky last. It only comes as a G fit and fits like an AE 'EE' width. It looks more attractive in the photos on their website than it does in real life. If only they would make it on the chisel toe B543 last, their medium B529 last or their B555 narrow medium last...[​IMG]
     
  11. DocHolliday

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    A quick comparison on the pricing of the yearling Craftsman from the three online merchants that have come up in this thread:

    Nungar.com.au: $230AUD + $50AUD shipping = $280 AUD or approx. $211 U.S. (Just got an e-mail confirming the shipping.)

    Bootsonline.com.au: $275AUD + $50AUD shipping = $325AUD or $245 U.S.

    Aussiebushhats.com.au: $240AUD + $36AUD shipping = $276AUD or $208 U.S.

    (Thought it might be handy to have the pricing all in one place -- I was having trouble keeping it straight.)
     
  12. skalogre

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    A quick comparison on the pricing of the yearling Craftsman from the three online merchants that have come up in this thread:

    Nungar.com.au: $230AUD + $50AUD shipping = $280 AUD or approx. $211 U.S. (Just got an e-mail confirming the shipping.)

    Bootsonline.com.au: $275AUD + $50AUD shipping = $325AUD or $245 U.S.

    Aussiebushhats.com.au: $240AUD + $36AUD shipping = $276AUD or $208 U.S.

    (Thought it might be handy to have the pricing all in one place -- I was having trouble keeping it straight.)


    Thanks Doc. I think I will look for the kangaroo leather ones myself.
     
  13. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I've got the catalog pages bookmarked:

    Nungar: $240AUD, or $180
    Bootsonline: $295AUD, or $222 U.S.
    Aussie: $270AUD, or $202 U.S.

    Plus the shipping, of course.
     
  14. skalogre

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    I've got the catalog pages bookmarked:

    Nungar: $240AUD, or $180
    Bootsonline: $295AUD, or $222 U.S.
    Aussie: $270AUD, or $202 U.S.

    Plus the shipping, of course.


    Sounds like there will now be two people wearing 38R Corneliani and size 10 RM Williams Craftsman boots [​IMG]
     
  15. WatchGuy

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    I might also add that buying those same boots directly from RM Williams is $311.77 AUD (or $234.18 USD) plus shipping.
     
  16. Vang

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    The store has plenty of Craftsmans (Craftsmen?). It's worth going in even if only to check one's size. But the prices are much higher than at any of the web sites listed in this thread.
    Oh, I realize that, I'm only going to see what size I want to order them in.
     
  17. mr monty

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    Were they hiding these boots?[​IMG]


    PLEASE NOTE: The following message may contain information about gifts to be delivered from Orvis.com. If you share this email address with someone else and have not recently placed an order with Orvis.com please do not continue reading. We do not want to spoil a surprise!

    Orvis is pleased to inform you that the following items have shipped:


    Shipped By:

    Carrier Tracking Number Date
    US MAIL 09/18/2006


    Shipping To:

    Me






    Items Shipped:

    Item# Description Shipped Price
    87T4-2397 R M Williams Craftsman Boot 1 174.99
    Size:11.5
    Color[​IMG]ARK BROWN



    This shipment completes your order.


    Shipment Summary:

    Merchandise: 174.99
    Other: .00
    Freight: 12.95
    Tax: 11.28
    Less Allowances: 10.00
    Less Gift Certificates: .00
    Total: 189.22

    * Freight is charged one time for the entire order, regardless of any additional shipments on your order that may be necessary.
     
  18. thinman

    thinman Senior member

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    Were they hiding these boots?[​IMG]


    PLEASE NOTE: The following message may contain information about gifts to be delivered from Orvis.com. If you share this email address with someone else and have not recently placed an order with Orvis.com please do not continue reading. We do not want to spoil a surprise!

    Orvis is pleased to inform you that the following items have shipped:


    Shipped By:

    Carrier Tracking Number Date
    US MAIL 09/18/2006


    Shipping To:

    Me






    Items Shipped:

    Item# Description Shipped Price
    87T4-2397 R M Williams Craftsman Boot 1 174.99
    Size:11.5
    Color[​IMG]ARK BROWN



    This shipment completes your order.


    Shipment Summary:

    Merchandise: 174.99
    Other: .00
    Freight: 12.95
    Tax: 11.28
    Less Allowances: 10.00
    Less Gift Certificates: .00
    Total: 189.22

    * Freight is charged one time for the entire order, regardless of any additional shipments on your order that may be necessary.



    Yes, I've been checking the Orvis website periodically in hopes someone returns a size 12D, but without any luck.[​IMG]
     
  19. Sator

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    Following a request to clarify my over detailed explanation of sizing at AAAC I have updated the sizing section. Please read them carefully and let me know if it is sufficiently clear. Otherwise I will revise it again. Thanks guys.
     
  20. Vintage Gent

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    A quick comparison on the pricing of the yearling Craftsman from the three online merchants that have come up in this thread:

    Nungar.com.au: $230AUD + $50AUD shipping = $280 AUD or approx. $211 U.S. (Just got an e-mail confirming the shipping.)

    Bootsonline.com.au: $275AUD + $50AUD shipping = $325AUD or $245 U.S.

    Aussiebushhats.com.au: $240AUD + $36AUD shipping = $276AUD or $208 U.S.

    (Thought it might be handy to have the pricing all in one place -- I was having trouble keeping it straight.)


    Considering Ben Silver prices these at $425 before tax or shipping (http://www.bensilver.com/fs_storefro...y=4066&group=1), those are some exceptional prices.
     

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