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RLPL USA-made tie

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gza, Jul 22, 2006.

  1. gza

    gza Senior member

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    It seems that RLPL has changed tiemakers multiples times. I understand the English made ones were T&A, and the Italian ones are Altea. However, I came across a "Made in the USA" RLPL tie and was wondering who might have made that.
     
  2. rssmsvc

    rssmsvc Senior member

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    I have a lot of RLPL ties and I have never seen that. What is the fabric ?

    Could you post a pick ?
     
  3. gza

    gza Senior member

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    Sure thing...
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    The tag says "Made by Hand / Made in U.S.A. of Imported Fabric." Although I'm terribly inexperienced in this area, the silk doesn't feel particularly impressive to me - somewhat thin and stiff.
     
  4. yellman

    yellman Senior member

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    Sure thing...
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    The tag says "Made by Hand / Made in U.S.A. of Imported Fabric." Although I'm terribly inexperienced in this area, the silk doesn't feel particularly impressive to me - somewhat thin and stiff.


    maybe fake, all their stuff is made in britain or italy, no where else
     
  5. rssmsvc

    rssmsvc Senior member

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    When did you buy it and where ? No tag I have has anything like it for regular silk.
     
  6. gza

    gza Senior member

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    It was from Blondy's Bay Auctions, a well-reputed ebay seller. I have no idea how old it is.
     
  7. rssmsvc

    rssmsvc Senior member

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    I went through all my ties and all are made in italy or england. I am guessing maybe the material is special or that it is before this period.

    How wide is it at it's biggest point.
     
  8. gza

    gza Senior member

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    It's 3 7/8" at the widest point.

    EDIT: Actually, there's a chance that it could be linen. There's no fabric tag, but it does have a stiffness and tendency to wrinkle that suggests linen.
     
  9. pejsek

    pejsek Senior member

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    Remember that purple label did not spring forth fully-formed and all at once. immsmc, purple label started out as a designation with the Polo brand; in fact, I believe the first purple label goods carried the familiar Polo label done in purple rather than blue. At that point (which must have been 10 years or so ago) all Polo items were made in the US, so it's possible that your tie may date back to this time. I doubt you have a fake; any counterfitter worth her salt would reflexively reach out for the familiar Italian or English designations.
    I'd be curious to see the back of the tie. As coincidence would have it, I just bought a couple of pl ties made of silk that could match your description of "somewhat thin and stiff." These are unlined seven folds in neat small scale woven silk patterns (one black w/ silver diamonds, the other brown and white checks). The effect is somewhat unusual and costumey, I suppose--evoking styles of the 1930s--but I find them quite beautiful.
     
  10. tgfny

    tgfny Senior member

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    Remember that purple label did not spring forth fully-formed and all at once. immsmc, purple label started out as a designation with the Polo brand; in fact, I believe the first purple label goods carried the familiar Polo label done in purple rather than blue. At that point (which must have been 10 years or so ago) all Polo items were made in the US, so it's possible that your tie may date back to this time.

    Not true, I still have a POW check button down that was made in Singapore that was Ralph lauren on a purle labe. Has a stud instead of a top button. First year RLPL ties were a;so made in England.
     

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