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RLPL to drop Edward Green? Tell me it ain't so.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mussel, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. rssmsvc

    rssmsvc Senior member

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    I spoke to sales men at the Chicago Mansion and they did not know of the ending relationship.

    Is 650 a good price point for their 850 shoes ?
     


  2. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I heard the same from a fellow member, may be he'll fill us in with more detail.

    That would be me.

    I had heard this news several weeks ago when I had a lengthy discussion with the Manager of the Mansion.

    I had called him to complain that my trunk order shoes from February were still not in hand and he asked me to come in the store for an explanation and a make good on another purchase.

    Basically, RL had 60 top-end customers who ordered shoes at the Feb show and did not get anything. They really aren't that concerned about the money per se, but potentially losing a group 60 high-value customers who special order $1000 shoes in a nightmare for them, especially through no fault of their own.

    Edward Green had become an unreliable partner for them, much like they had for Louis, Boston, Paul Stuart, Oxxford etc. before Polo.

    RL has sourced two potential replacements for the RLPL shoe business, both of whom (brace yourselves) are Italian factories. So much like the RLPL tailored clothing and haberdashery went from the UK (Chester Barrie and T&A) to Italy (Saint Andrews, Lorenzini and Altea), so will follow the footwear.

    So my friends, snap up the RLPL EGs whilst you can, they are not long for this world.
     


  3. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    It's a shame you PL buyers are losing the source for EGs, but do you think the quality of RLPL will diminish? I'd hardly call Saint Andrews inferior to Chester Barrie's old RTW. Or Lorenzini to T&A.
     


  4. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    It's a shame you PL buyers are losing the source for EGs, but do you think the quality of RLPL will diminish? I'd hardly call Saint Andrews inferior to Chester Barrie's old RTW. Or Lorenzini to T&A.
    The shoes you received yesterday may be a preview of what's in store for the future. [​IMG]
     


  5. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It's a shame you PL buyers are losing the source for EGs, but do you think the quality of RLPL will diminish? I'd hardly call Saint Andrews inferior to Chester Barrie's old RTW. Or Lorenzini to T&A.


    I've got ample experience with both Italian factories that RL is considering for the work and they are both top-notch, but below EG in my opinion. They also more obviously "Italian" in look and design than say Saint Andrews or Lorenzini. That being said, RL could creat an entirely new range of models for their own use.
     


  6. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Maybe Gaziano should bid for the contract.
     


  7. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    I've got ample experience with both Italian factories that RL is considering for the work and they are both top-notch, but below EG in my opinion. They also more obviously "Italian" in look and design than say Saint Andrews or Lorenzini. That being said, RL could creat an entirely new range of models for their own use.

    Won't ask you to divulge since it seems that you cannot but, I am in the minority here, I like the Italian high end offerings better than Lobb and Green[​IMG] Other then the Mackay, I found the Green/RLPL offerings to be middle of the road (aesthetically, not the construction). I like the Italian design sensibilty, I find that they take more risks with the model introductions, make a sexier shoe and can also make a great conservative shoe. I will probaly be one of the few that is happy to see an Italian shoemaker take over RLPL shoes. For you Green fanatics, think of the upcoming closeout deals on RLPL, maybe I'll finally get a pair of Mackays.
     


  8. Luc-Emmanuel

    Luc-Emmanuel Senior member

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    Won't ask you to divulge since it seems that you cannot but, I am in the minority here, I like the Italian high end offerings better than Lobb and Green[​IMG] Other then the Mackay, I found the Green/RLPL offerings to be middle of the road (aesthetically, not the construction). I like the Italian design sensibilty, I find that they take more risks with the model introductions, make a sexier shoe and can also make a great conservative shoe. I will probaly be one of the few that is happy to see an Italian shoemaker take over RLPL shoes. For you Green fanatics, think of the upcoming closeout deals on RLPL, maybe I'll finally get a pair of Mackays.
    Yes Ed. EG shoes are just plain boring. I can't quite understand the fanatism around these shoes.

    !luc
     


  9. josepidal

    josepidal Senior member

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    I went to a store wearing Lobb Jermyn IIs and tried on the Grants. I thought those looked really great in comparison as a chiseled version.
     


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    This should be interesting; I preferred the Chester Barrie PL suits to the Saint Andrews, but I would imagine that most guys would call it a wash. Lorenzini was certainly an upgrade from the PL T&A shirts though.
     


  11. Ambulance Chaser

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    A salesman with whom I spoke at the Polo Ralph Lauren store in Chevy Chase confirmed that the EG relationship was ending. He said that Ralph had purchased a shoe factory in England that would be making the Purple Label shoes. Take this information with a pillar of salt.
     


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    A salesman with whom I spoke at the Polo Ralph Lauren store in Chevy Chase confirmed that the EG relationship was ending. He said that Ralph had purchased a shoe factory in England that would be making the Purple Label shoes. Take this information with a pillar of salt.

    Purchasing their own factory? Wow.
     


  13. rssmsvc

    rssmsvc Senior member

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    That seems fishy , just for the reason that RL doesn't own , but subcontracts. It will be nice to see what the shoes are like.
     


  14. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Purchasing their own factory? Wow.

    Definitely not what I've been hearing. For over a month we've known they were going to move to an Italian factory but I've never heard anyhting to the effect of them buying a factory.
     


  15. von Rothbart

    von Rothbart Senior member

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    Another RL salesman told one SF member (was it jose?) RLPL would continue to use EG. So now we have 3 stories from 3 different sources:

    1. RLPL is going to an Italian maker (seems to be the most credible).

    2. RL is purchasing its own English factory to produce RLPL (least credible).

    3. Relationship with EG will continue (hope so).
     


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