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RLPL Edward Greens for $325?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by drake, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. Earthmover

    Earthmover Senior member

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    Dang. Mine is 3.4 pounds. I guess they just stuffed bubble wrap into my shoes. At least I'll have something to pop.

    Mine's supposed to arrive Friday. With this and my STP order, I am very excited. Christmas in September.
     
  2. arced

    arced Senior member

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    The interesting thing is that there hasn't been a mention of these shoes on AAAC. If you're looking for a difference between the two sites, I think this would be a prime example.
     
  3. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    By the way, mines 4 pounds even.

    no velcro for you!
    [​IMG]
     
  4. scnupe7

    scnupe7 Senior member

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    FEDEX lists the shipping weight of my parcel at 3.3 pounds, that's seems on the light side to include shoe trees. Thoughts?


    My order for two pairs of Mackays last year weighed 7.5 lbs. My order that shipped today (two pair) weighs 7.0 lbs.
     
  5. saint

    saint Senior member

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    3.8 lbs. They are all different.
     
  6. Dan-

    Dan- Well-Known Member

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    3.8 huh. What size are your feet? My 10Ds are 4.7 lbs.
     
  7. redcaimen

    redcaimen Senior member

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    What may account for the differing shipping weights, in addition to size variations, is the possibility that they are shipping more than one type of shoe. Suede, burnished calf, with or without shoe trees, and of course sport sandals - with or without velcro. It ought to be interesting and the results should be coming in in a day or two.
     
  8. SuitingStyle

    SuitingStyle Senior member

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    Dang. Mine is 3.4 pounds. I guess they just stuffed bubble wrap into my shoes. At least I'll have something to pop.

    Mine's supposed to arrive Friday. With this and my STP order, I am very excited. Christmas in September.



    me too, looks like my "EG" shoes and Belvest suit will arrive around the same time .... WoHoo.......
     
  9. josepidal

    josepidal Senior member

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    Actually this would be a good case study in the rational behaviour of Styleforum members. Polo essentially gave us a free option: free shipping and the shoes can be returned for free to any Polo store. Given that there was no transaction cost, we had no reason not to order the shoes to see if it was a great deal or not.

    Anyway, mine shipped Fedex.

    Actually, we have the minor transaction cost of the hassle of making the return, but in exchange we also get the crazy sensation the soap opera theorists are driving at.

    Mine shipped tonight as well via FEDEX. The weird thing is that I ordered two (another with 20% discount), and one pair is 3.3 pounds; the other is 4.1.

    Eh?
     
  10. StockwellDay

    StockwellDay Senior member

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    Actually, we have the minor transaction cost of the hassle of making the return, but in exchange we also get the crazy sensation the soap opera theorists are driving at.

    Mine shipped tonight as well via FEDEX. The weird thing is that I ordered two (another with 20% discount), and one pair is 3.3 pounds; the other is 4.1.

    Eh?


    excellent, will be quite interested to hear about the difference (if any) when they arrive.
     
  11. Sabrosa

    Sabrosa Senior member

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    The shipping weight on my package lists as 3.4 lbs. I had ordered a pair of the Camden monks awhile ago to try out the sizing (ended up returning them), and the package was 6.0 lbs according to FedEx.
     
  12. EL72

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    Actually this would be a good case study in the rational behaviour of Styleforum members. Polo essentially gave us a free option: free shipping and the shoes can be returned for free to any Polo store. Given that there was no transaction cost, we had no reason not to order the shoes to see if it was a great deal or not.

    Actually, transaction-cost economists would argue that going to a B&M store to return them, to say nothing of posting here about the shoes for hours [​IMG], represent significant transaction costs. I suggest however that the externalities generated by the entertainment value of this thread (it's f'ckin hilarious!) easily offset any transaction costs.

    Nonetheless, the herd behavior exhibited by the shoe buyers in this thread is indeed quite strong. I haven't spent $300+ on shoes in at least 10 years (back when I was single [​IMG]) and were it not for the fact that Polo does not ship to Canada, I would have ordered a pair too. While many members spend far more than that on shoes a regular basis, I suspect that for many people who ordered the Corben, this is a substantial purchase and their first EG shoe, albeit a great deal assuming they are EG.
     
  13. EL72

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    The only shoes that come up in Google's cache for "Ralph Lauren Corben" is that shoe by the way...
    here and here...


    Try Edward Green Stern and you'll get even less [​IMG]
     
  14. arced

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    Nonetheless, the herd behavior exhibited by the shoe buyers in this thread is indeed quite strong. I haven't spent $300+ on shoes in at least 10 years (back when I was single [​IMG]) and were it not for the fact that Polo does not ship to Canada, I would have ordered a pair too. While many members spend far more than that on shoes a regular basis, I suspect that for many people who ordered the Corben, this is a substantial purchase and their first EG shoe, albeit a great deal assuming they are EG.

    I agree with this (especially as this is arguably my first EG purchase), but what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like! It's one thing for a herd mentality about a known item, but to get this many people buying the shoes because they could, possibly, be made by EG is pretty crazy.

    Actually, rethinking it, it's probably because noone knows what they look like that everyone went for them. If there was a reliable picture of the shoes, then half the people would have dropped out for taste reasons.
     
  15. DocHolliday

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    I agree with this (especially as this is arguably my first EG purchase), but what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like! It's one thing for a herd mentality about a known item, but to get this many people buying the shoes because they could, possibly, be made by EG is pretty crazy.

    I'd say it would be crazy only if the shoes weren't returnable. At worst, you're out $5. At best, you've gotten the best retail price on EGs I've ever seen. As far as bets go, this one is unbeatable.

    And really, these shoes aren't even sight unseen. There was a picture, and a description that matched the picture in every detail save for the type of leather. And there's been nothing to suggest they aren't PL shoes. Even if they're not EGs, PL laceups at $260 would be a huge steal.

    Is there a possibility the shoes won't be what everyone is hoping? Yes. But to me, it's no different than ordering any pair of shoes online. Will they fit? Maybe, maybe not. Will they look as good in person? Maybe, maybe not. It's just part of the online shopping experience -- there's always a risk.
     
  16. josepidal

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    I'd say it would be crazy only if the shoes weren't returnable. At worst, you're out $5. At best, you've gotten the best retail price on EGs I've ever seen. As far as bets go, this one is unbeatable.
    I don't think it's anywhere irrational. To add to what Doc said that there's essentially no risk unless Polo goes out of business tomorrow, I think that people who bought this as part of the "herd" know what they're doing. For example, this is a suede oxford and not something as versatile as a dark oak cap toe, and I posit that anyone buying this as their first EG either:

    1) Has learned a lot from the forum and already has a good basic shoe wardrobe, hence sees this as a good opportunity to upgrade from a novel direction.

    2) May still be getting the basic shoe wardrobe together but have become aware of the value purchasing what could be an EG for approx. $260.

    I bought my first EGs almost a year ago when there was a similar forum frenzy over Polo.com, and they were my first dress shoes purchased after high school. I spent more than I thought I would have, but am very happy and am confident I can use what I bought for the next few decades of my career. I am also confident that I have the basics together and have the luxury of holding out for only the best bargains.
     
  17. josepidal

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    what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like!
    On the contrary. A number of us have seen PL suede oxfords in the big Ralph Lauren stores.
     
  18. EL72

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    I agree with this (especially as this is arguably my first EG purchase), but what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like! It's one thing for a herd mentality about a known item, but to get this many people buying the shoes because they could, possibly, be made by EG is pretty crazy.

    Actually, rethinking it, it's probably because noone knows what they look like that everyone went for them. If there was a reliable picture of the shoes, then half the people would have dropped out for taste reasons.


    Calf or suede, I think everyone is assuming they are the laceups pictured and people are buying because it's EG for 1/3 normal retail. Given what $300 gets you these days (not a heck of a lot), it's a price that many can seemingly justify paying for what are probably the best RTW shoes on the market while they could not justify paying $900.
     
  19. gehrig

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    5.3 lbs here (though i did order a polo and boxers, too). After the statement from EG that their shoe (the mythical stern) was renamed the corben, isn't the only real question at this point what type of leather it will come in? I'm praying for suede, myself.
     
  20. arced

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    Your points are well taken. I think we can safely assume that an EG put out by RL won't be ugly and will probably be pretty useful. Nonetheless, what percent do you think will return them if they turn out not to be EG? That was the prime lure for me. If they're another maker, I'll have to think a lot more about whether I'll keep them or not. And then there's the fit question...
     

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