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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by drizzt3117, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. drizzt3117

    drizzt3117 Stylish Dinosaur

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    No, they're C&J.
     


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    drizzt3117 Stylish Dinosaur

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    ah, any idea what model/last they are?
     


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    Looks like the Belgrave, last 337 (my personal favorite).

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    I believe that 337 is typically a Handgrade last, and most C&J Polo shoes that I've seen haven't been made to Handgrade standards. Perhaps a regular-line square-toe last like the 238?
     


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    drizzt3117 Stylish Dinosaur

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    Hmm, the text inside says "Bench Made" does that make a diff? If it is the belgrave, that seems like a good deal as you will be paying $210 or so with the coupon.
     


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    I double that it's Belgrave. Like I said, the C&J-made Polo shoes that I've seen have not been made to Handgrade standards, and Belgrave is a Handgrade shoe. They might have used the Belgrave pattern, but it's more likely that it's made to regular-line standards.
     


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    I will defer to jcusey's expertise in this matter.

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    I think the "bench made" denotes that it is a C&J shoe. It doesn't look like a handgrade shoe to me at first glance, so the deal is decent, but not amazing. I think plal sells handgrade shoes for $100 more than those.
     


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    The Belgrave lists for 300 pounds in England.

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    It looks like it could be "draygott" too. This is fun. I dont know why, but it's fun.
     


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    Without seeing a pic of the soles it's impossible to say for sure, but Ralph Lauren does (or at least did at one time) offer some Polo shoes that were made to Handgrade standards.
     


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    If you zoom in to the sole on the left shoe, you can see the stitching, so they're not handgrade models.
     


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    A Harris Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    Ah, you are right. Good sleuthing.
     


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    All of this season's C&J-made models that I've seen have had channeled soles and look to be made to higher standards than the C&J models that I've seen in the past, but they lack the antiquing that you see on the Handgrade models. Of course, you've probably seen many more older models than I can imagine. The shoes are now pushing $600, which is rather high for the quality of the shoe.
     


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