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RL Black Label

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by j, Jan 19, 2005.

  1. water

    water Senior member

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    I really, really like the cut of that suit.

    And Blur is infinitely better than Bush (or 'Bush X' as they were called in Canada.)
     


  2. bryce330

    bryce330 Senior member

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    I got my issue today. I love the slim cut, but the low button stance creates a bit of dissonance. I always think of a slim cut and narrow lapels naturally going with a high button stance.

    However, the accompanying write up says that three-button suits will also be available, so those might look better than the two-button models depicted in the magazine.

    There is also a brief interview with Ralph - he says he was going for a combination of North by Northwest and Sean Connery-era James Bond. He also confirms that the suits really are that slim.

    Also, the model is Gavin Rossdale, lead singer of the awful band Bush.
     


  3. Horace

    Horace Senior member

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    I don't know, I sort of think the low button stance opens up, or perhaps elongates the slim cut.

    While I see some connery in the suit (sort of -- but remember that Connery was actually built), I don't see too much (or any really) North By Northwest. Does anyone?

    I only mention because I had a suit bespoke along the lines of North by Northwest years ago. I probably didn't get it exactly right, but I tried to pay as much attention to Grant's suits in that film as possible.
     


  4. BlvdDandy

    BlvdDandy Senior member

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    Does the article mention when this Black Label stuff will be available? Great cut.
     


  5. Renault78law

    Renault78law Senior member

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    I know you're joking, but no worries about that.  Cease and desist letters generally come before lawsuits.  Besides, they wouldn't win.  IMO, posting those pics (whether doctored or not) is neither actionable infringement nor unethical.

    (imageWIS)
    Nope.


    Back to the topic at hand, those suits look great to me. Why's that guy's head look so huge?
     


  6. johnnynorman3

    johnnynorman3 Senior member

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    Totally fair use, in my opinion.
     


  7. Renault78law

    Renault78law Senior member

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    I hope that's true, but I'd have to see it to believe it. Hard to imagine Ralph would alienate 96% of his market. He trying to compete with the likes of Balenciaga or Slimane?
     


  8. Matt

    Matt [email protected]

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    the whole narrow lapel thing just doesnt do it for me im afraid
     


  9. tiger02

    tiger02 Militarist

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    I don't know that having an extra line is going to alienate any of his customer base; it's much more likely to give him an inroads to new markets. I doubt there's much actual crossover between those who buy his pony shirts and those who buy RLPL suits--there's no reason for Black Lable (RLBL?) not to do the same thing.

    Having not read the GQ article yet, I can only hope that RLBL becomes a younger, more accessible RLPL; and that he is able to saturate the American consciousness with clean cut, high quality suits as effectively as he did the pony shirt. Whether or not you like RL's methods, you can't deny their efficacy.

    Tom
     


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    otis Well-Known Member

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    CG's suit in North by Northwest was not as slim (and pants were pleated); but the clean line lines and narrow lapels do capture the spirit of it. I definitely see some of Connery's James Bond from Goldfinger or From Russia with Love. My immediate impression was Alfie.

    This will not alienate the market for Polo; it will likely be a very small niche of their business which Ralph alludes to in the article. For the past several years they have made several different cuts from the updated American blue labels (which are cut very large), the Savile Row inspired Purple Label, etc. There was a blue label they called the "congressman" a couple of years ago that was very slim w/ plainfront pants, but not as modern looking as these. I don't think these are designed to compete with Slimane either - I doubt the average Dior customer has ever stepped into a Polo store.
     


  11. chorse123

    chorse123 Senior member

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    In this week's Telegragh Magazine, the Black Label suit is on the "men's hotlist 2005." They write:

    Black Label is the new tailoring line from Ralph Lauren and is exclusive to Europe [really?]. It's dramatic, slimline silhouette and conservative palette of charcoal grey, black and dark navy marks a deprture away from the flamboyant style of the Purple Label and is perhaps the most overtly English of all his collections (from £895; 020 7535 4600)
     


  12. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    "The most English of all his collections"? Hmmm, maybe they missed the interview in GQ.
     


  13. topcatny

    topcatny Senior member

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    My mailman finally delivered this months GQ. 3 days after many of you, but he did deliver in a blizzard.

    If they are really that slim I'll have to add it to the list of brands I can't wear. But I am curious to see it in person.
     


  14. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I like the cut of these suits quite a bit. I ordered something similar from Chan on their last visit. (We'll see how it turns out). High gorge, two button, slim arms, flat front, but normal button stance, not low. In these shots, I think Gavin's noggin looks a little out of proportion to the slim lines. This might be caused by the slight wide angle lens used by the photographer. In any case, I dig the look.. as long as it fits your body well... not too snug.

    Btw, imo Blur is in another class entirely. Check out "Think Tank".
     


  15. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Narrow shoulder on the suit, big head, big hair, and he's leaning towards the camera...
     


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