Riedel stemware

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  1. romafan

    romafan Senior member

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    I could be wrong, but I believe the Gruets are actually a 'Champagne' family - they came here (or were here) and did some fairly extensive research before determining that the area south of Santa Fe (near Albequerque) most closely approximated the climate of Champagne - hence, chaep New Mexican sparkly that's pretty @#$%'in good. [​IMG]
     


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    Cremant from Burgundy is also an exceptional value. Same Chard grapes as trad Burgundy, but they spend no money promoting it.
     


  3. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    here's my question: mr. and ms. bargain's anniversary is coming up, and some nice glasses would make a good gift. we don't need any daily drinkers (although after trying riedels we may change that).
    ...i was looking at the "Vinum Extreme 4-piece Tasting Set" - would a couple of these sets be good to get? any alternative suggestions are also appreciated. note: the top-of-the-line handblown glasses scare me, due to their apparent fragility.

    /andrew
     


  4. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I like the Vinums, but have not tried the Extremes. Those are allegedly best suited for new world juice, of which I consume little.

    I think of Vinums as filling the gap between dishwasher-safe everyday and $50 stems at the high end. They are pretty well designed, more or less well balanced, and while obviously not handmade, also not cheesy. Their vintage champagne flutes/tulips are enormously useful, if you need that sort of thing.

    Another less-expensive alternative that I place in that same general bracket--- Williams-Sonoma. They make nice Burgundy and Bordeaux-style glasses of various sizes. The 13oz bowls are pretty nice.

    A long time ago, Tiffany used to traffic in decent stemware. Models have changed, though, and I can offer no specific advice.

    Another that works well if you like the style is Orrefors. The Prelude model works well for non-Burgundian wines-- just get the size larger than what they recommend. I.e., water goblet for claret, red wine for sauvignon blanc/riesling, and so on. Not very breakable, and just a cut below the really scary good stuff.
     


  5. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    thanks for the advice. us being in noCal, new world wine is fairly prevalent.

    the champagne flute idea is also good, although i think they would get less use here.

    i will check out orrefors too - thanks for the sizing suggestion.

    /andrew
     


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    For whiskey of all sorts, I'm perfectly happy with wine tasting glasses or sherry copitas (almost the same thing). I bought a bunch a few years ago at Pottery Barn for about $3 each.

    That said, I'm intrigued by the scotch glasses shaped like the Riedels on Amazon (as well as other, similar shapes proffered by the likes of Michael Jackson and Dave Broom). I've only experienced them once, but found that they did a good job of showing the nose while not gathering so many fumes that my eyes watered (like the time I tried an Islay malt in a brandy snifter....). For some reason, I never feel like dropping $22+ each on them when I see them, but I know I'll fold eventually.

    RJ: regarding Black Bottle--it can be had stateside, though few places carry it (the Wine and Liquor Depot in Los Angeles/Van Nuys sometimes does). I tried it once a while back and don't remember too much about it, which usually means that I enjoyed it well enough, but not enough to buy a bottle.
     


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    The Riedel Vinum vintage champagne glasses are excellent in that they have a little divit at the bottom of the bowl which puts a very, very elegant bubble stream up the center of the glass. This bubble stream will continue for a very, very long time. But the stems on these glasses are way to thin and really prone to snapping off. And at close to $20 each, that's painful. We had 50 champagne flutes at one time and are down to a little more than 30. [​IMG]
     


  8. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    i am continually impressed with the photos you share of your house. [​IMG] /andrew
     


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    Thanks. Our house is located in a not trendy neighborhood, that is rapidly getter better though. If we could move our house 1 mile to the west, it would be worth 50 - 100% more. Crazy.
     


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    So am I.
     


  11. faustian bargain

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    it's good to be on the vanguard of neighborhood improvement, i think.

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    i ordered a couple sets of the vinum extreme wine tasting set, they just arrived today. they are impressively large glasses. i haven't removed them from the boxes yet (waiting for The Day), but they feel pretty solid, not at all fragile. i look forward to using them.

    /andrew
     


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    Riedel is one of the best, it changed my life I can say. If you love wine you need good glasses.
    The glasses I enjoy most:
    Vinum Syrah glas: I drink a lot of Rhone/syrah based wines. But actually this glas is good for al good reds. Except for maybe pinot-noir based wines and lighter wines.

    vinum extreme "chardonnay": A really fine glas to use, it is big so your buttery chardonnay wil have some air.

    Vinum Extreme "Riesling": A good glas for most of the white wines. I drink my everyday whites in it. But also my Champagne although I have the Sommelier chamagne glass
     


  13. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Try the Sommelier Champagne glasses for an even more frightening depreciation rate. We've had a few shatter in our hands during washing. The bowls, not the stems.

    But the Sommeliers are among the nicest-designed for bubbly that I've ever used. Makes the very fine Vinums seem positively clunky by comparison.
     


  14. SGladwell

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    I guess I'll be the stick in the mud in that I'm not a fan of Riedel glasses. I grew up in a household with too many expensive broken Riedels. They're just too flimsy and too fussy. Worse, their more durable lines (the theoretically restaurant-only line, for example) have my major pet peeve, a seam on the stem.

    The funniest thing I've seen recently are the Riedel-branded glasses at Target. Sub Ikea quality at a masstige price.

    My favorite wine glasses, for both durability and aesthetics, are Schott-Zweisel's Titran line. They're titanium crystal rather than lead crystal. Their shape is elegant and they don't get cloudy-looking no matter how you treat them.
     


  15. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I've seen pictures of some of them, but haven't been up close. The few models I've seen in catalogues didn't send me. Sounds like a great idea, though.

    In theory, if someone made stem-less (or short-stemmed) glasses out of that stuff, we could have truly dishwasher-safe glasses for every day-- Cotes du Rhone kind of juice.
     


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