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Ridiculous fashion trends

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by CushyCouture, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Cyber Eliitist

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    It's not being a "hipster" that annoys me. It's the elitism and snobbery that seems to come with it.

    I mean who do these people think they are? Telling me something is improper or incorrect just because they pride themselves on obsessing over minute details or non-mainstream movements. Just ridiculous. These people need to not be so dismissive. And they really need to get out of the rut of thinking in a manner that adheres to a larger group-think structure, while glorifying individual experience, even though the majority of said experiences are made up or borrowed from other sources. Thank God I'm not a part of anything like that.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to return to judging the drape of a stranger's suit and discussing how Hitler invented sprezz.
     
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  2. mcbrown

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    Yes, and spoilers keep race cars firmly planted on the track - also science. To say that the pleat/no pleat decision in trouser design has anything to do with this is like saying that people put wings on their Dodge Neons to keep them from flying off the road.
     
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  3. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    fify
     


  4. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My sister is a hipster. Straight up. All her friends, too. I mean, yeah, their appearance annoys me, but it's fairly inconsequential. But it's a combination of knee jerk dismissiveness and hypocritical contrarianism that get's me. Most of all, a lot of educated hipsters have genuinely interesting things to say. I don't have any problem with people who can't get over themselves...I probably have that same problem and have a secure enough ego that I get over that attribute in others quickly. But it's that they can't get over their lifestyle that really bothers me.

    I'm willing to bet reformed hipsters make for bad ass friends.
     


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    I wear a tie under a sweater paired with jeans regularly.

    Then again I'm in college, so what do I know.
     


  6. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Cyber Eliitist

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    We talking about SF or hipsters? :confused:


    I once dated a girl who, mid-relationship, decided that she wanted to go from sorority girl to hipster. Out of nowhere, without warning, she started listening to Animal Collective (and the like), eating only organic farmer's market food, dressing like a homeless person and misquoting French poetry. Worst part is that the sex didn't get any better and certainly wasn't as good as good as I imagine it would/should be with a chick like that. Long story short she's now engaged to the most "granola" options trader in history.
     
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  7. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm looking at your title and your location. And then reading this again. And my thoughts are: yes, but he doesn't wear skinny jeans, drink PBR like it's water, possess a willingness to fuck/smoke/snort/wear anything provided he does it ironically. If person is going to be an elitist, own it, but don't pretend like it's part of something greater.

    So cheers [​IMG]
     


  8. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Hipsters. SF members aren't hypocritically contrarian (in the case of hipsters, a very uniform subcultural built in a large part around the idea of nonconformity)
     


  9. GusW

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    I was in Urban Outfitters the other day checking out their alternative books. Some are quite funny. The one titled "Dads Are The Original Hipsters" cracks me up because it is so true. The major difference was that in the 70's we thought what we were doing was so original and cool rather than ironic. This longtime hipster fascination with irony puzzles me. I don't quite get why it hasn't passed already. Can anyone enlighten me why it continues?
     


  10. bourbonbasted

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    Sometimes I'm ironic. But it's more subtle. Like taking the bus or opening my own doors or experiencing rain on my wedding day.
     


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    I would love an explanation too. If you've been sporting an "ironic beard" for 5 years, isn't it just a regular old beard at this point?
     


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  13. FlyingMonkey

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    Err, hipsters don't listen to emo - you are getting your subcultures confused.

    Hipsters listen to bands featuring a wistful girl singer backed by a a DJ with a beard and a man banging a carved rock he bought from a monk in Thailand. Or a bloke wailing in a high voice about all the girls who left him, followed by an entirely unexpected analogue synth solo that sounds like a crow defecating into a bag of marbles. Or a techno-bluegrass-rap outfit with a name that is an unpronouncable symbol who say they are from from Bolivia but who live in Red Hook.
     


  14. bourbonbasted

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    I find it's a fear of commitment based on the logic that what's "cool" or "erudite" is inherently fleeting. If you take yourself too seriously or invest too much in one facet of something you risk being left behind or worse losing your identity, which is vehemently defended as unique despite the fact that it is quantifiable to the level of elitism (creating a further layer of irony). And really their entire subculture is based on contradiction and irony inasmuch that they come together in an effort to fight conformity.

    Early movements towards individualism were born of expression, creativity or experimentation. It didn't matter what everyone else did; you were doing what you thought was cool. Today, what's "cool" is dictated not by the individual, but is rather thought of as the opposite of what the masses are doing. Again, irony prevails.

    I've also heard an argument that it's a defense mechanism against an ever-informed generation where people have a much easier time accessing knowledge once limited to a much smaller group. The frustration of blurred cultural and intellectual classes, created by information proliferation, led to the creation of a condescending attitude. Which fostered an over-arching sense of irony.
     
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  15. Quadcammer

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    it was a joke man, :facepalm:
     


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