Hate to do this, but I have finally accepted that these just don't fit me and they are too nice to set in the closet. As you can see from the pics, I have worn these very little--I want to say three times. Includes the original box and bags that came with the boots. These are great looking whiskey shell cordovan boots that need a new home. Shipping included I accept Paypal (+3%) or postal Money Order. Will ship when payment clears. I am far from an expert on Ron's stuff, hopefully, the pic of the box will help you find answers to any questions I can't answer.