I was so delighted today when I received a package from Ricky. I can't contribute much knowledge to this forum, but I hope I can contribute this way by posting pictures. I am very satisfied with these shirts. The fabrics are excellent. The collar is perfect. MTM is truly an long educational experience. It took me many iterations to finally realize that what I like, and what suits me, is a high-stance, extreme spread collar. Look at the shirts. Aren't they just heavenly?