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Riccardo Bestetti Bespoke projects.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Roy, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. NAMOR

    NAMOR Senior member

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    fantastic. did you end up ordering a chukka?
     
  2. PCK1

    PCK1 Senior member

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    Those are Riccardo's personal pair.


    No. not yet at least.
     
  3. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Took a pic of my second pair from Bestetti today, newly polished and neat, figured I could share it here:

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  4. agedashidofu

    agedashidofu Senior member

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    Fantastic! I'm on my 3rd pair of trial shoes (should be coming next month or so.) It's taking longer than expected for me but Mr. Bestetti and I decided that the fit shiuld be priority... Hopefully the 3rd time's the charm
     
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    I really love the color of those shoes j.
     
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  6. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Agedashidofu: Thanks! It will be worth the time for it to have the last adjusted correctly. Think it's great that he doesn't settles before he's pleased with fit on test shoe.

    Ironist: Cheers, it is a great color!
     
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    J Ingevaldsson: I agree with Ironist - what a beautiful shade of brown! What does Riccardo call it?

    I heard from Leffot back in December that my test pair was ready. I had ordered a pair of black Mavericks during the trunk show in the fall, and I'm pleased by how quickly it's moving along. I finally had a chance to swing by the shop this week to try them on.

    The fit was excellent. I thought that the left shoe was nearly perfect, and it felt at times like I was wearing a sock (of course, this being a test pair, there's no sole!). The right was outstanding except in the heel area...it's nearly there and just needs to be a bit more snug. I know it's all relative, but I'm not at a point where I could imagine something fitting more comfortably, so I was pleased.

    I will post photos when the shoes arrive. Wanted to post these pictures of the test pair.

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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What's the deal with the cork filler? Saint Crispins does it too, why do you need this if the shoe is hand welted? Is it to make up for a thinner insole? Other than that I can't think of a reason.
     
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  9. j ingevaldsson

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    Thanks! It's antique tobacco (or vintage tobacco, as he's called it sometime).

    Nice that the fit was fine with your pair!


    I'm not sure why, and if, there's cork filler on those since it's test shoes (can't see properly in this pic, on the phone). But when it comes to hand welted shoes there is also a hollow space between the insole and outsole (or midsole if double soled), which is sometimes filled with cork paste (cheapest and lousiest, not that common on hand welted), cork plates, leather or felt. Much less filling needed though. Also the shoes would squeak easily if there was no filling, with the leather in- and outsole rubbing against each other (which is a big pro with felt, no risk for squeaking).
     
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  10. shoefan

    shoefan Senior member

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    There is no cork filler on those test shoes. That is just the flesh side of the insole; it can be quite loose and flanky, particularly if a looser section is used for trial shoes, as is likely.
     
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  11. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Is there cork that's actually, like chunks of wood used in shoes, or is most of it that ground up stuff that ends up being 50% wood and 50% glue?
     
  12. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Really? :lurk:

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    Not really...esp. the way makers use all purpose cement these days. If the insole and the outsole can't rub against each other because they are cemented to one another, creaking is unlikely.

    But, in any event, it's probably not the cork that prevents creaking, it's the contact cement...again.

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  13. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Maybe once upon a time but cork...especially good cork...is becoming harder to find these days.

    PS...the thing that caught my eye and made me wonder, is why he's got the shank in backwards? Anyone know?
     
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  14. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    You'd know better. But don't you use any filling on your shoes?
     
  15. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I do--thin (3/32") felt. But that's almost entirely so that I don't have to use All Purpose--which is occlusive, environmentally deleterious, and not so good as a replacement for oxygen.

    If I don't use any cement, they'll creak.

    If I paste the felt in, they won't.
     
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  16. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Ok. All purpose, love that term :)
     
  17. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Generic term for neoprene based, toluene solved, contact cement.
     
  18. j ingevaldsson

    j ingevaldsson Senior member

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    Yeah I know, the Swedish word for it is much more boring than All purpose.
     
  19. chogall

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    AP?
     
  20. ThinkDerm

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    which last?
     

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