Riccardo Bestetti Bespoke projects.

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  1. meister

    meister Senior member

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    Sorry T4 not feeling the Bestetti love for this one...but different strokes for different folks amigo....
     


  2. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    thank you

    different strokes indeed.


    continuation of the work on my shoes
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    handstitching the 'apron front' on the pigskin:

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  3. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    gorgeous.
     


  4. Looking to improve

    Looking to improve Senior member

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    Something different:
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    Perhaps T4 could provide more pictures of their creation...

    MtB
     


  5. shoefan

    shoefan Senior member

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    T4:

    In looking at the pics, I noticed the absence of a side lining on Bestetti's shoes. Does he in fact not use a side lining?

    Nice shoes, by the way!
     


  6. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    it little bit blobby on vamp,
    poor lasting it loose?
    flesh feet and last little bit blobby?
    it could be.
    The waist,
    it very very good.
     


  7. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You can't be serious? :confused:
     


  8. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    imo, this needs definitely explanation.
     


  9. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    i have been
    most lazy
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    thanks
    and i don;t know
    what you mean by
    'side lining'
     


  10. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Side linings are soft reinforcements of the sides of a shoe/boot to preserve its shape once the
    shoe gets worn.Toe puffs and heel counters are stiff reinforcements.

    All of them are placed inside the shoe between lining and upper leather.

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    The “innards” still out on the table: heel counter, toe puffs and side linings.

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    Here they are in place: toe puff on one shoe, side linings on both.

    Different pair of boots:

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    Side linings sticking out. Toe puff still missing.

    I remember reading in James Ducker’s blog (he had started shoemaking while living in Spain)
    that the Spaniards wouldn’t use side linings and he had to learn to prepare and fix them,
    only after he had returned to England.

    Maybe the Italians do not use them either.
     
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  11. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    It could be me computer,
    shoe look different from other here.
    Client flesh foot?
    Hard leather to last very good?
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  12. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    not from you.

    shoes w/o trees always look a bit different. oh well.

    imo, it's a unfortunate style for the foot shape, anyway. especially the tight waist. too much excess material, imo
     


  13. Son Of Saphir

    Son Of Saphir Senior member

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    yes could be,
    that why me use ? ? ?

    [quotre]too much excess material, imo[/quote]
    it hard to say.
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    me could be wrong.
    does not matter.
     


  14. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    The shoes are bespoke, if nothing else.

    We don't know what the foot, that these shoes are made for, looks like. It doesn't make sense...even subconsciously...to look for all too familiar shapes, derived from standardized lasts, on bespoke shoes.

    The bespoke maker has to respect and build to the foot...not to third party expectations.
     


  15. T4phage

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    thank you for explaining that


    to make a blind supposition
    of 'not lasting well'
    it at best hasty
    at worse stupid




    is that your sharkskin chukka rolf?
    nice!

    from what i have seen
    bestetti doesn't use it
    but he does refer to
    'leather reinforcement'
    for some more delicate leathers.

    but so far
    none of my shoes
    have 'deformed' for lack
    of this side lining
    (oldest one about 10 yrs)
     
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