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Riccardo Bestetti Bespoke projects.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Roy, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    That looks really complicated. :confused:

    I wonder how many times young cordwainers have tried these multi-pattern uppers only to get to the lasting stage to find it doesn't fit around the last.
     
  2. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Shoemakers often design directly off the last. The basic shapes...known as the "formes"...were generated on the last before they became paper patterns and then leather components.

    All things being equal, there is no reason the patterns will fail to fit the last during lasting. The assembled uppers should very nearly fall onto the last--they started on the last, they are simply returning to the last.
     
  3. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Hmm, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  4. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Senior member

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    I looked up the word "Awesome" in a dictionary and was directed here.

    Amazing photos. Those Croc wholecuts are out of this world.
     
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    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    i guess that they will be made in piggie??
     
  6. luk-cha

    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    what a lame ass chat up line that is - reminds me of the pick up lines Will Smith use in the" fresh prince of bel air"
     
  7. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    i still enjoy the classics, however. Dated a girl who said, "Is that a banana in your pants, or you just glad to..."
     
  8. cassidy96

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    stingray fashion. seriously? in a few years they'll be added to the endangered species list.
     
  9. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    no, it is a 'country grain'
    like this:

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    the pigskin will be
    an apron front 3 eyelet derby
     
  10. meister

    meister Senior member

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    There is a killjoy (so to speak) in every village.
     
  11. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I doubt it. They'll never be even occasionally common in RTW shoes--stingray is just too dern hard to handle...cut, sew, make..factories could never justify the ruined knives, the broken needles the lost time. Even bespoke makers are limiting it to whole cuts where the cutting and piecing and so forth is at an absolute minimum.
     
  12. Gdot

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    Stingray is a food fish in much of SE Asia. I'm not sure when they began to realize in SE Asia that there was a market for the prepared skins (Shagreen). But Shagreen has been around for quite a long time now. The main thing that previously made it completely unaffordable was the very labor intensive (and thus high cost) of preparing the skins. And the high cost of then fabricating them.

    Now that the basic preparation of the skins is being done in SE Asia the cost of the raw product has dropped substantially. And you will find web sites selling 'sting ray' products for prices that were previously so low they were previously impossible to achieve. (Wallets, belts, etc. etc.) These items are also manufactured in SE Asia where the labor are costs are low.

    But, as DWFII said - the material is very hard to work with and there will always be a premium associated with it - especially for complicated items such as shoes.

    There are some makers who are making items such as decorative boxes, furniture inlays, etc. etc. with some commercial success. As in these cases the skin is simply adhered to a subsurface and no sewing is required. Again making the fabrication costs bearable.

    In any case - the real demand for removing the stingray from the water at the moment is FOOD. The skins are of secondary importance.
     
  13. IrateCustomer

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    After going through this entire thread, I need to check in at the ER with a horrific case of smallballeritis. Tell my family I love them.
     
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    will you survive?
     
  15. T4phage

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    here is the pigskin:

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    but it will only be
    completed in december
    ='(



    for the current pair
    i decided against a medallion
    since the leather was 'busy' enough
    needing no elaboration:

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    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  16. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    love the innovation.
     
  17. rjsphd

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    And I thought I was over my shoe lust. Please keep the pictures coming. This is thabestthreadevah!
     
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    jubu Senior member

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    Good god. Amazing thread.
     
  19. emptym

    emptym Senior member Moderator

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    Thanks for posting all these pics. T4. Gorgeous.
     
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    +1
     

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