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I was browsing a designer outlet centre yesterday, looking at various items and talking to salespeople. It was sobering to realise just how panicked these retailers are. A few little signs of just how much trouble they are in:
- I found a parking space within 10 minutes. On a regular Saturday afternoon, it takes 20-30 minutes, let alone a December Saturday.
- there were still a lot of people roaming the shops but very few actually buying anything. Not many people carrying bags and most of the bags were the smaller ones.
- salespeople desperately accosting you, the panic at not selling anything evident on their faces. I was asked if I needed help about 10 times (no exaggeration) within five minutes of walking into one store.
- no lines at checkout in any store apart from Ralph Lauren.
- even the RL line (which was definitely long) was generally filled by people carrying two or three small items
- silly levels of discounting/deals for this stage of the season: brand destruction was evident before my eyes as a result. People chucking around high-end items as if they were worthless rubbish. Only Pringle was holding the line on discounting (I guess cashmere sweaters sell very well in the run-up Christmas, even in these times). Everywhere else, brands were losing cachet in seconds that they'd taken years to build up. Customers were complaining about only 70% or 80% off. Extraordinary.
- as an example, one salesman in Zegna said that they'd be getting trousers in some sizes next week for just £19. That's just ridiculous.
How will these brands ever restore their pricing?
How many high-end makers are going to go to the wall?
What's it like where you are? I hear Saks had its own little firesale in NYC recently, but what about elsewhere?
I've never seen retailers THIS panicked before.
- I found a parking space within 10 minutes. On a regular Saturday afternoon, it takes 20-30 minutes, let alone a December Saturday.
- there were still a lot of people roaming the shops but very few actually buying anything. Not many people carrying bags and most of the bags were the smaller ones.
- salespeople desperately accosting you, the panic at not selling anything evident on their faces. I was asked if I needed help about 10 times (no exaggeration) within five minutes of walking into one store.
- no lines at checkout in any store apart from Ralph Lauren.
- even the RL line (which was definitely long) was generally filled by people carrying two or three small items
- silly levels of discounting/deals for this stage of the season: brand destruction was evident before my eyes as a result. People chucking around high-end items as if they were worthless rubbish. Only Pringle was holding the line on discounting (I guess cashmere sweaters sell very well in the run-up Christmas, even in these times). Everywhere else, brands were losing cachet in seconds that they'd taken years to build up. Customers were complaining about only 70% or 80% off. Extraordinary.
- as an example, one salesman in Zegna said that they'd be getting trousers in some sizes next week for just £19. That's just ridiculous.
How will these brands ever restore their pricing?
How many high-end makers are going to go to the wall?
What's it like where you are? I hear Saks had its own little firesale in NYC recently, but what about elsewhere?
I've never seen retailers THIS panicked before.