wow-- had a great time in scottsdale; fashion square is a real trip (nordstrom AND NM in the same location?? great for me, bad for my bank account) OK, here's basically what i found/ learned: + the 'style show' at neiman marcus was basically geared toward gay guys, i guess. i saw only 1.5 outfits that i would even CONSIDER trying myself (strangely, the animal print shirt and jeans were not among them...liked the suitcoat worn with italian loafers, striped or print shirt, and designer jeans) + Great conversation with the gentleman from Oxxford clothes. regrettably, his name escapes me at the moment, but he's a younger guy, and was of course very knowledgable and willing to share info about oxxford. some details of interest.... - Oxxford shirts have machine made buttonholes, but the collars are turned by hand, sleeves are stitched on by hand (interestin, the way the attachment does not interrupt the yoke on the back of the shirt-- i've never seen this before). new line of shirts is coming out soon, which will duplicate the slender fit similar to that of turnbull and asser shirts (try one on-- the waist is cut really nicely, so shirt doesn't billow around the waistline) - Radcliff suits, the newest line (coming soon) from oxxford features lighter, hipper cloths and flat-front trousers. they have a higher shoulder than the gibbons and other models, yet still have a sizeable, almost egg-shaped armhole. i believe the shoulder was 'brought in' a little, compared with the gibbons model (that is, shoulder is not extended out as far as the gibbons). great looking suits, AND looked cool in lightweight grey wool with windowpane pattern, SB peak lapel and light brown John Lobb shoes-- slick. + purchases-- tried to stay on a budget, bought a cool black burberry short-sleeve polo shirt for casual days at work (sleeves have a very thin ring of burberry plaid, and satin logo inside the placket); two colorful striped Brioni ties (tried to only buy one, but the sales rep was a personal shopper, and she was damned good at her job..); red diesel t-shirt with hand-painted details (didn't see the pricetag until i brought it home. for that price, i hope attractive women flock to me in huge droves); new PJs from nordstrom (comparable to turnbull or Derek Rose, in my opinion, but great price of $59).