I found Red Wings to be similarly difficult to size. I wear a 9 generally. The 9s are longer than normal, but fit in terms of width. I tried the 8.5, and they squeezed my right foot in an uncomfortable way. I went with the 9s. If I'm going to be really moving a lot, I just lace them up tight. But, I've always been fine with having extra room in the toe. Also, the 8.5 were the floor model. Oy.