Recommended Suit for $1,000 - Suggestions on Brand or MTM ($1,000 Budget)

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  1. OldManMachine

    OldManMachine Well-Known Member

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    I'm currently in the market to purchase my first "real" suit. This isn't my first actual suit, but will technically be my second suit that I will be owning and hope to make this decision more seriously and do my due diligence.

    My first suit was purchased from 3-Day Suit Broker when I was 20 years old to attend a wedding without really knowing what I was doing. Unfortuantely, I ended up with a black, 2 button, store brand suit in a 38S. I'm now 23 and have been using that same black suit for weddings, funerals, job interviews, and networking events. I've done my homework on SF and have collected a staple of brooks brother & charles tyrwhitt non-iron shirts over the years during the holidays and sales.

    I've now graduated and hope to get some guidance from the SF veterans on how I can get the most out of my $1,000 budget. This suit will be used for more interviews, hopefully starting my career in the finance field and will be worn for work. I've read all the SF 101 threads throughout the year, read through blogs on "put this on" to get all the basics down on figuring out what is considered a proper fitting suit. However, I'm not familiar with all the different quality brands and avenues out there and how they stack up against one another. I hope that someone can guide me towards the right direction. Below are some specs:


    Objective: - Getting the most out of my $1,000 for a solid Navy Blue suit
    - 2 button single breasted
    - Preferably a slim tailored conservative look with slightly tapered trousers
    - Full canvas? (Is this possible with my budget)
    - Bespoke? (Is this possible with my budget)

    Height: 5' 6" - 5' 7"
    Weight: 155 lbs
    Waist: 30-32
    Dress Shirt Neck: 14.5
    Dress Shirt Length: 32 - 33
    Location: Southern California


    Would it be possible to get a full canvas suit or a bespoke suit with my budget? or would this be out of the question? I was originally leaning towards purchasing a 3 piece suit from Charles Tyrwhitt for $500-$600 but read that many SF members said it was best to spend their money elsewhere.

    I also remember reading a few years back on SF that the Brooks Brother 1818 collection would be the best choice for someone making their first quality suit purchase. Is this still the case currently? If so, which line from the 1818 collection would be recommended, are they all made equal in terms of quality? Forgive me for my ignorance, but is it just me or do the models on BB's website kind of give an unflattering look to their suits especially the milano line compared to places like suit supply.
     
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  2. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    You can go a couple of different ways here. Bespoke is not one of them on $1000. You could get 2 suits from Suit Supply for about $1000. These are half-canvassed and decent quality for the price. You could get one in navy and one in charcoal. This is probably the option I would go with, since you will need more than one suit once you get a job.

    You can also do MTM. I'm not sure what is available to you locally. Where in Southern California are you? LA and San Diego should have some MTM places, but I would have no idea what they are. On your budget, it is likely the best you will be able to do is half canvassed. If you want full-canvas MTM, I think Kent Wang might be your only option. Unfortunately, this is all done through mail. Unless you really know how a suit should fit, I think the only way this can work for you is to have a local tailor whom you trust evaluate the try-on models that they send you in order to determine the adjustments that need to be made.

    The Brooks Brothers 1818 line is good as well (there are several cuts available), but unless you are getting a steep discount, they are going to be too expensive for OTR, in my opinion.
     
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  3. AMG1

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    For comparison of the different suit companies I would read http://www.styleforum.net/t/140387/the-styleforum-working-hierarchical-suit-quality-list-sfwhsql which is quite useful.

    As far as I understand it full - canvas will be difficult, bespoke impossible (unless you fly to Bangkok) given your budget.

    I know that is not your topic but donĀ“t forget about proper shoes and accessories. There is nothing worse than a good suit and bad shoes and accessories going alongside it.
     


  4. OldManMachine

    OldManMachine Well-Known Member

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    @msulinski & AMG1

    Thank you both for your advice and suggestions. I'm actually located in the Los Angeles area, so heading west towards Santa Monica, east towards West Covina, or south towards Orange County would all be possible options for me (except San Diego since that is a bit out of my reach).

    I've only looked into Thick as Thieves, but have not thought about Kent Wang and will definitely look further into that. If you have any other suggestions, please feel free to send me towards that direction. I'm still a little bit unclear of the differences between MTM vs Bespoke. I've tried looking up the definitions and it seems like MTMs are adjustments done off an existing block / pattern, whereas Bespoke is made completely from scratch? When getting measurements, how would you know the tailor is working off an existing pattern or if it's being made from complete scratch? To me, it sounds like a fine line between the differences, hoping to get some clarification on this.

    This is a bit off topic, but regarding shoes and accessories, I do plan on spending some money on a pair of Allen Edmonds black calf park avenues. To be honest, the shoe does seem a little bit boring to me, but it is highly regarded as a basic conservative cap toe shoe as a foundation to build upon. If there are any other better suggestions, please advise.

    Based on the recommendations, right now I'm deciding between Brooks Brothers 1818, Suit Suppy, or Kent Wang.
     


  5. jgeldner

    jgeldner Well-Known Member

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    Propersuit.com

    They have the same fabrics as KW, but you get measured in person. I have two suits from them. The first fit well, the second is perfect.

    full canvas, and they start at (I believe) $750.
     


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    http://www.ehaberdasher.com/servlet/Categories

    Benjamin Sartorial suits are fully canvassed, and all cost about $500. I'm at a similar stage in life to you and have been wearing a navy blue 2-button "Lucente" to interviews for a couple of years now. I'd strongly recommend Benjamin, if you can find any with measurements that are right for you. The Lucente coat might not work: the 36s is the right length for me, and I'm 5"10.
     


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    You're 23 years old, and you don't own any good suits. Don't spend $1,000 on one suit. You should either go the made to measure route, or you can buy a couple of decent quality suits and have them altered to fit the way that you want. You're going to be wearing suits every day. Spending that much on one just doesn't make sense for you. Save that for when you know a little more about your style and how you want your clothes to fit. I bought a few suits when I graduated, a few years ago. They fit like crap because I didn't know what the fxck I was doing. Luckily, they weren't expensive. Don't make a big investment until you know what you're looking for.
     
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  9. sportin_life

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    Check out the current Brooks Brothers sale. I grabbed a Milano (slim fit, almost like RLBL with less dramatic shoulders) for ~ $450.
     


  10. OldManMachine

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    Thanks VinnyMac, I appreciate your suggestion will actually be following your advice. Coming from someone who was once in my shoes, I value your opinon and it makes a lot of sense.

    Would you have any recommendations on which MTM suit makers or decent quality suit RTW brands that you would advise checking out? I've decided to not go with TaT and propersuit.com after reading more threads on SF. My choices right now are Kent Wang, Brooks Brothers, or the Benjamin Sartorial.



    Sportin_life, did you make this purchase recently? I'm currently checking out BB's F&F discount that started today 9/21/12, but based on the consensus, the deals aren't that great right now. Still marked at around $998+ before before applying the 25% discount.
     
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  11. VinnyMac

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    That's a pretty good price, but IMO, Brooks Brothers suits are too full in the torso. I know that the company's been around for a while, but a lot of the products are nothing to write home about. My gf owns more dresses than I can count, and they all look fantastic on her. If only it was that easy for me to find clothes that fit.
     


  12. OldManMachine

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    I feel that way about my BB Slim Fit shirts as well, still a bit boxy around the torso area. What brands / mtm suit makers would you recommend checking out?
     


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    Why not also consider suitsupply? I haven't read a single thing negative about that place.
     


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    I know exactly what you are going through as I went through the same thing when trying to get into finance.

    Don't spend 1k on a suit as you'll need something far more durable. You can move onto luxury later when you have a job and a salary. For now the suit will go through mini hell as you rush around to interviews.

    Everyone at interviews is also not dressed particularly well, so fit is your most important aspect.

    Based on your measurements provided Suit Supply would be a good fit for you. Avoid the higher number S fabrics (130+) for durability.

    I'm in the minority but I have had excellent experience with Tailored Suits Paris. If you can get past the cheesiness of the site they work with you to create what you want. My suits from there are extremely durable, fit incredibly well and look good. Do they look as good as some of the $1k plus suits I own? No. But unless you are nearly cuddling with me in an elevator you cannot tell. They are also (supposedly) upgrading their fabric selection and are fully canvased (although its cotton as opposed to cotton-horsehair).
     


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    I'm almost the exact same size as OP and a 38S milano fit from Brooks Brothers fits me almost exactly. They are half canvas, but the fit is really good without being overly trendy.

    I have also contemplated Kent Wang, which seem like very good value for MTM (full canvas) which can be had for sub $1000.
     


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