I have used Chan for more than 15 years, my wife for about 7 years. I had to stop ordering shirts, consistently snug, no real options for the collar interlining. I wonder if others have had this experience. For suiting, jackets, I consider them the best. I see them Friday in Washington. Does anyone know what became of Raymond? Perhaps freelancing in Shanghai? I suggest being open minded about fabrics besides Loro Piana. There are better cloths, not necessarily available to Hong Kong merchants. Therefore I frequently supply my own cloths (see other postings on this subject).