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Reasons why New York Sucks

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Manton, Aug 26, 2012.

  1. gdl203

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    Sure, the density varies with neighborhoods. I know I've never been in a situation where no zipcar is available within 5 or 6 blocks - even at the very last minute (literally an hour beforehand). It's not always the car I would have chosen but there's pretty much always something.
     


  2. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    I think I have driven in Manhattan maybe half a dozen times in my entire life. The last time (that I can recall) was 2000 when I lived there and rented a car to drive to Boston.
     


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    I wish it was like that here... I would use them a lot more. They actually closed the garage closest to me, so now the nearest ZipCar is a good 10-15 blocks away. I haven't used it in over a year now because of that and the total lack of weekend availability. Suppose I should think about cancelling...
     


  4. gomestar

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    i've always just rented from a place like Avis.
     


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    In the city, or outside of the city?
     


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    gomestar Super Yelper

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    in, usually for traveling out.
     


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    How much are you usually charged if you dont mind my asking? Every time I've looked into it, it was insanely expensive.
     


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    gomestar Super Yelper

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    the rates do vary heavily for whatever reason, but usually $70-90 plus gas for 24 hours and unlimited miles. If it's a holiday weekend it could be $150, much like it was on Dec. 26 when I traveled.

    the tough part is the variability in price and vehicles. On Dec. 26th for $150 I was given a piece of shit Nissan that was basically a hatchback, while back in early November I paid $40 ($40!) for a Ford Edge.
     


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    I'll definitely have to give it a try again then. The few times I've checked into it, it was close to $200 for a weekend rental, which is absurd. Thanks!
     


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    Isn't a zipcar approx 80/dy with 180 free miles? If you want to do a weekend driving trip those extra miles could add up pretty quickly. Maybe balanced out with the included gas/ins.

    Now that the surface streets/parks are somewhat working, what to do about the subways? They honestly need to be firebombed and completely redesigned. Is this even possible? 100B? 200B? Will preservationists spring up to "Save the Columbus Circle Subway Tile!"

    lefty
     


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    Yeah, somewhere around there, usually a bit more. The gas/insurance helps, but it's definitely only an option if you're not going too far and don't do it too often. It's great for the Catskills or whatever. The MTA is such a clusterfuck. I will say, they did a great job getting it back up and running after Sandy. Going from completely flooded tunnels to back in operation in less than a week is pretty impressive. Other than that though... Just wow. Everytime I ride another city's subway, I am shocked at how shitty the NYC subways are.
     
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    The Lex line was a disaster zone yesterday. And all because some guy needed to take a shit. And he had to take it just before rush hour was to begin, and he had to take it at a station where the 4, 5, and 6 lines all pass through.
     


  13. Manton

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    I think the subways are pretty good honestly but it does compare unfavorably to a realy classy looking system like Hong Kong or Moscow. Amazing to me how Moscow, which is so run down in so many ways, maintains that gorgeous subway system
     


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    the NYC system is just old as shit. And they can't exactly afford major changes.

    We'll see what the 2nd ave line looks like when complete, maybe it'll be nice.
     


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    Yeah, I think this is a big part of it.

    Even though I gripe, I do have to admit that the subways here are very usable for the most part, and cover a tremendous amount of ground. I love being able to take the subway everywhere, not worry about a car, if I've been drinking , whatever.

    But it annoys me that we pay so, so much for it, and it is mismanaged, decrepit, and falling apart.
     


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