StephenHero
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Anybody witness this Metro North crash?
6 dead.
6 dead.
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Sustainable does not mean what you think it means.
The real underlying problem in NYC real estate is not its price as much as the low quality of the properties. They should cost as much as they do, but be much nicer. This is the result of both rent control laws (which fix price and therefore make profitability a function of cost i.e. repairs) and regulations that get in the way of building and replacing the housing stock (making it impossible or ridiculously expensive to do so).
It makes sense for it to be expensive. Salaries are high, and all that car money gets substituted into apartment money.
I wish I were poorer, so I could finally afford to live here.
The real underlying problem in NYC real estate is not its price as much as the low quality of the properties. They should cost as much as they do, but be much nicer.
Well it depends on what you value. Most people here aren't here because of the real estate, they are buying a neighborhood and an experience. I definitely agree with you that it should be expensive, but things like fit and finish aren't important to most middle class people who live here because it's not why they are here. Also space. I see no reason to have a giant, pristine place because I'm pretty much only home to sleep, that's it. I'm never home so I don't really care about certain things that people value elsewhere. The City is my living room.
I've been in Cambodia for the last two weeks and[COLOR=FF00AA] I can say what I see many people living like here New Yorkers have absolutely nothing to complain about. It is actually offensive that any middle class New Yorker does complain about their living situation. [/COLOR] To think you need a $30 million apartment to feel comfortable explains so much about you. If a middle class person is willing to pay a sum of money for something that has rats then it is worth it for them, that's how a market works. Nobody is forcing a middle class person to live in New York City, you don't like it leave. It is that easy.
You're still missing the point of all NYC has to offer, which is why most people are here. Real estate values aren't tied directly to living quarters because there's more to living here than that. Sure, in the middle of nowhere maybe because that's all you have and it is what people value.
Who steps out to check the car for damage after being caught between the gates on train track?
lefty
That's what they're saying.
lefty
But to say they should cost as much as they do but be much nicer . . . well, that's the point. People living in NYC have come to accept what passes for housing stock in NYC. But people who don't live there are aghast at what you get for your money -- and I'm not just talking about in flyover country, either.
Are we talking about Confucius Plaza?I have a friend who recently got accepted and moved into public housing. The requirements are much more lax than I thought and it costs more to live there than I thought. They seem to value people with more kids in general, obviously, but the rent is 30% of your income, which for somebody with a lot of kids and low salary is a lot of money. My friend is an artist and makes about $30k per year and she got a place there, which, imo 30% of your $30k is a lot of your income. Then again she took it because it was in Chinatown right near where she grew up so she is close to her mom.
At 30% of your salary it would cost me more money to live in public housing than my current mortgage payments are.
Also space. I see no reason to have a giant, pristine place because I'm pretty much only home to sleep, that's it. I'm never home so I don't really care about certain things that people value elsewhere. The City is my living room.