Reasons why New York Sucks

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  1. plei89

    plei89 Senior member

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    Conductors are needed — unless they'll go by the honor system and assume that people will get of in the zone that they paid for... The further east you go in Long Island, the more you pay, it isn't a flat rate fee like the subway.
     
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  2. ehkay

    ehkay Senior member

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    Hmm. Good point. If a lot of stations are like the Montauk one, I guess it would be a problem.
     
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  3. ehkay

    ehkay Senior member

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    No, you could use a system like the Washington Subway or the RER, but I think Manton is right.
     


  4. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    yeah, certainly it's possible to have turnstiles that know where you got on, DC and London and Paris do it.

    But first, think of the capital investment, it would be huge. The MTA has no way to source that money. Second, most of the platforms outside the city have a zillion access points. Fordham and 125th would work because there are so few ways in or out but nearly all the ones in the suburbs would be impossible to "secure." Even if they could afford to build all those electronic turnstiles, it would still be ridiculously easy to bypass them unless they somehow walled off entire platforms for hundreds of yards, multiplied by dozens of stations.

    Finally, imagine the lines it would create. Hundreds of thousands of people stream through GC every day and never stop until they get on their trains. If you bottlenecked the tracks at each end, that would be a massive headache.

    Amtrak does not allow you to buy tickets on the train and there are no turnstiles but they do check your ticket before they let you on a train and it creates a pretty big backup. They have many fewer trains that GC/MN.

    I just don't see how this would work.
     


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    Yeah, that's a pretty awful idea.

    A reason that NY does not suck: I rode the Metro-North Hudson Line for the first time last week, and it is a truly spectacular route with amazing views.
     


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    It's a really nice ride.
     


  7. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    that's one of those things that I know I would love and want to do, but just never end up doing. It's been the same story for like 4 years now. My wife even had a project up there so she rode it frequently. :facepalm:
     


  8. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    The hudson valley is lovely and one of the best things about NY.
     


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    I got off at Tarrytown so I only saw the lower part of the route, but still.

    Also: how awesome is the name Spuyten Duyvil?
     


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    :laugh: I think the same thing every time. I repeat it a few times when we hit that station.

    Did you go to Stone Barns while you were around Tarrytown ?
     
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  11. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    what is the point of those random nitrogen tanks that occupy the occastional street corner?
     


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    To keep Verizon cables dry.
     


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    No, but now I want to!
     


  14. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    i should have phrased the question as "is there a good reason for those random nitrogen tanks that occupy the occastional street corner?"
     


  15. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    is that really the answer??
     


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