Reasons why New York Sucks

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  1. Manton

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    Nore, when those projects were built, those neighborhoods were slums. For many, many years, the Upper West Side was thought to begin at 72nd street. The only good streets below there was CPW (Riverside Drive begins and 72). West End was sort of OK but columbus, B'way, and amesterdam were slum streets south of 72. Amsterdam being the worst. IN fact people would refer to the UWS as a trough, with amsterdam in the middle as the low point where the scum collected.

    The area between 59 and 72 centered on Amersterdam was called "san juan hill" because it was the first in Manhattan to go puerto rican, way before spanish harlem, when east harlem was still italian. By the early 60s it was really bad and really dangerous. West Side Story was written about that neighborhood. What turned it around was slum clearance and the building of lincoln center. IN fact, if you watch the movie WSS, the street scenes were filmed in that neighborhood AFTER everynoe had been evcited but before the tenements were demolished. It looks really bad.

    So, those projects in the west 60s were built in part to house the people kicked out of the old private tenements of San Juan Hill. Then Lincoln center slowly revitalized the neighborhood into the "yupper west side" (late 80s term) and the housing projects really stuck out.
     
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    In my single days I aspired to have a loft somewhere between like Mott and Broome or Prince. I was down there so much it made sense. Plus, earlier I used to deliver film to studios and such in the area and saw the insides of some of those places. Phenomenal if you overlook the sloped and weird staircases in some of them. The plan was to design and hand make lingerie. Every now and again when down there shopping or whatever I briefly consider still getting one. I'd live somewhere just far enough from the Adidas store that I can't hear the DJ spinning if I decided to sleep in.
     
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    one thing that amazed me was how fast the UES changed from Carnegie hill up to 96th Street to 96th Street and above. Totally different worlds.
     
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    96th on the east side has always been like that, been a famous "border" for years. it's because the NCRR tracks come up from underneath park there. They used to be above ground the whole way then when they are put under park got developed as a luxury street (5th always was) but only up to the point where the tracks were underground.
     
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    I see it as the train plus the hospital centers. Really breaks up the continuity of Madison and 5th going north, and then you reach Park and there's the train.
     
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    That's the last thing that I am....
     
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    isn't everyone in brooklyn a hipster :confused:

    wretchedly humid again today
     
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    No. Some are tragic Poles or horrible Russians.
     
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    >> hipsters
     
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    Negative...Only the new jack Bklyn residents are......And that ain't me.
     
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    I hate that area with passionate fury. Dunno why. Maybe it's because it's the gateway into Spanish Harlem which I also hate since I married Dominican :)
     
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    I spend a good deal of time in Chelsea as many of our friends live there and there are some really nice places, people but some real eye openers like some of the shops/ads. We can't walk a block on 9th without my ten y/o saying, eeeeww. That and some of those side-street brownstone owners need to fix their sidewalks.

    I particularly enjoy the pizza in Chelsea, and I've eaten pizza in most every place in the city. Chelsea Market is OK but no Eataly. The thing that stands out to me most is the number of bicycles in the area. There is one chained to every tree. I like that.
     

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