Ready to Wear Suits Help

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  1. piscesswimmer

    piscesswimmer Member

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    Hello,
    I will move to London shortly, Could anyone give me some suggestions about the Ready to Wear Suits that meet my requirements?

    1 made in England (just personal preference, later I would buy more from other places)
    2 full canvas (RTW)
    3 more than 50 years history
    4 budget £1000

    How about Hackett or EDE & RAVENSCROFT?
    Thank you in advance!
     
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  2. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    E&R good start.

    "50 years' history" is utterly irrelevant, the longest established can still churn out trash - and do.
     
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  3. piscesswimmer

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    Thank you! Do you have other suggestion in terms of the brand?
     


  4. FlyGuy

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    Hardy Aimes
    RLPL "Saville row cut" on sale (if still made in England)
    Gives and hawkes (on sale and not)
    Brooks brothers I think makes one in England.
    Thom Brown, maybe

    BUT, have you ever tried a British Cut suit?????
    It's a very different fit than Italian and American.
     
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  5. shopper23

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    How is the British cut different?
     


  6. Astaroth

    Astaroth Senior member

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    Ive to say that I liked the fabric but not the cut of my E&R suit (MTM)

    Have you actually spent any time looking at any of these brands? Hackett and E&R barely could be any more different from each other and yet they have both made your short list.

    What do you want the suits for? Work or play? If work then what sort of environment are you going to be working in? What do your colleagues wear? If play then again what sorts of places are you going to? Whats good for a garden party isnt so good for a cocktail bar at night.

    I too would drop the 50 year requirement, I'd rather go to somewhere where the staff have pedigree and passion but the company is a start up than buy from a company thats purely focused on the bottom line and just happens to have lasted 50 years (which sometimes is disengeouos as age is obtained via acquisition).
    Even the made in the UK I'd question slightly unless you are talking about it for environmental/transportation considerations. Have you actually been to a UK based clothes factory? Do you think there are many "british" (by right wing standards) people actually working in them? Surely the quality of the work should be more important than where in the world their sewing machine just happens to be?
     


  7. piscesswimmer

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    Thanks a lot, I am working in a UK based professional service company, where I found most people are conservative in dress. Therefore, I have to choose traditional British style. For a man who don't know the process of suit manufacturing, choosing the brand might be a good approach to select a business suit. In terms of Hackett and E & R, I would like to say they are mainly in the scope of my requirements. It is possible that my requirements are not well grounded, but that are my preferences, I just think at this stage, I can also consider Pal Zileri,Ermenegildo zegna,Canali,Corneliani, do you agree?
     
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    Thanks a lot, I am working in a UK based professional service company, where I found most people are conservative in dress. Therefore, I have to choose traditional British style. For a man who don't know the process of suit manufacturing, choosing the brand might be a good approach to select a business suit. In terms of Hackett and E & R, I would like to say they are mainly in the scope of my requirements. It is possible that my requirements are not well grounded, but that are my preferences, I just think at this stage, I can also consider Pal Zileri,Ermenegildo zegna,Canali,Corneliani, do you agree?
     


  9. Astaroth

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    So you say you want British style and manufacture but then list a series of Italian brands?

    Having worked in professional services into the financial services market in the City of London for more years than I care to admit to the vast majority of guys will have no idea if your suit is British, Italian, French or anything else.... most will probably be able to tell double breasted from single breasted but not much more. Most guys I know buy their suits from M&S, Austin Reed, TM Lewlin, random brand from House of Fraser or Roderick Charles. A few more fashionables/ want to show I have money will buy from Prada, Tom Ford etc

    Most guys these days are in navy/charcoal/black trousers and shirt. A jacket on the back of the chair thats never worn and a tie in the top draw/locker in case they get called to a meeting with external clients or senior management. A few fashion forward younger lads will have a mid blue suit, tan shoes and a shirt 3 sizes too small and will generally be laughed at behind their backs.

    Without meaning any disrespect but it sounds ultimately like you dont have much experience with suiting and perhaps it would be better to get yourself down to London on a Saturday and go round and look at these brands plus some of the RTW on Savile Row etc and see what you actually like and that looks good on you?
     


  10. piscesswimmer

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    Sure, Thanks!
     


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