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Ready to Wear + Alterations vs. Made to Measure

Discussion in 'Menswear Advice' started by todaywefeast, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. todaywefeast

    todaywefeast New Member

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    Hey guys,

    I understand the difference between RTW, MTM and Bespoke, and I understand that in MTM they take a standard pattern and alter it to your specifics measurements.

    But what I fail to see if the real huge difference between buying a jacket from for ex. Lori Piana RTW and having it altered, and buying a MTM jacket in the same fabric from them.

    If a RTW is a basic cut - and then you alter it to fit you perfectly, how is that any different from altering the fixed pattern before it is cut in the first place?

    Thanks !
     
  2. starro

    starro Senior member

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    Idealism, meet pragmatism.
     
  3. 12345Michael54321

    12345Michael54321 Senior member

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    Within limits. Generally, within limits considerably less broad, and based on a less thorough understanding of your individual needs, than those involved in an experienced bespoke tailor crafting a garment for you.

    It really depends on what alterations are needed to make the fit perfect.

    Some alterations are easily accomplished, with excellent results. If all your RTW garment needs to be perfect are these sorts of alterations, then RTW + alterations can be as good as MTM.

    But some alterations are neither easily accomplished, not likely to yield excellent results. If one gets them wrong when making the garment, changing them once the garment is finished is either unreasonably expensive, impractically difficult, or unlikely to yield excellent results. In cases there will be a huge difference between RTW + alterations and MTM or bespoke.

    For example, If my only complaint with my RTW suit is that the pants need to be shortened an inch, that's trivial. It can be done easily and inexpensively, and will likely turn out just fine.

    But if my complaint with my RTW suit is that the jacket is too short, I'm pretty much out of luck. This isn't something readily fixed via a simple alteration.

    I would add that despite what one might conclude from reading some of the posts on online clothing forums, most of the time, for most people, RTW is actually a fine choice. Dollar for dollar, usually a better choice than MTM. No, not always, and not for everyone. But for the vast majority of men whose bodies are not far outside the norm, and for whom price is not an irrelevant concern, a quality MTM item is likely to represent the "sweet spot."
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2016
  4. Murlsquirl

    Murlsquirl Senior member Moderator

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    Move your question over here to the Menswear Advice forum so other new members can benefit from the feedback.

    @12345Michael54321 's post above is spot on.
     

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