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wogbog

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Hmm. Would you recommend reading all three at once? I'm debating powering through or maybe sliding one other book in between each one.
 
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Maybe break it up with some of his shorter stuff?

His (I think) very last piece--Stirrings Still--is accessible, beautiful and very short.
 

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anything by raymond queneau -- start with "zazie in the metro" or "excercises in style" -- and if you can, read it in french, because that's what's up.
 

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Hmm. Would you recommend reading all three at once? I'm debating powering through or maybe sliding one other book in between each one.


Anything before the trilogy I would not read all at once. :(
 

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some stuff i read recently:

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Cool and trippy. A quick read and some cool ideas that verge on jaeden smith fake deep but they're fun to think about.

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depressing as ****

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Really well written and generally terrifying. I liked the feminist take on the dystopian novel a lot and I highly recommend it to anyone who likes scifi.

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Interesting, but dense and hyper referential. Like, i'd really like it if i cared more, if that made sense?

Currently re-reading neuromancer for fun. God I love that book, though I forgot how over-written it is.
 
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Just started:

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^^ Lem is awesome, highly recommend The Cyberiad.
 

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I remember liking that one a lot as a kid, but I was slightly devastated to see what he did with Daredevil; as if everything in the 80s had to feature some kind of ninja storyline, or worse, a full-scale retcon where -- surprise! -- Daredevil and Wolverine are actually ninjas! :fu:

Otherwise, his reading of of Superman seemed pretty spot-on. :laugh:
 
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Frank miller's TKR totally revolutionized Batman the character. He had previously been a relatively goody two-shoesy superhero and Frank miller made him a grim avenger of the night.

This was before that sort of thing was a cliche and it was totlly groundbreaking at the time.
 

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Graphic, I initially read your post as "Arthur Miller's TKR revolutionised Batman..." and got wayyyyyyyyyyy more excited than was reasonable given that I know he never did anything remotely like that.
 

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Frank miller's TKR totally revolutionized Batman the character. He had previously been a relatively goody two-shoesy superhero and Frank miller made him a grim avenger of the night.

This was before that sort of thing was a cliche and it was totlly groundbreaking at the time.


Eh, I mean yes and no. I dunno if you were even alive in the 80s, but the character was totally consistent with the zeitgeist of the time: 'dark' exploitation/revenge narratives that proliferated with the rise of home video, paired with a particular type of Cold War exhaustion where anything remotely nationalistic was a target for lampooning. True, Batman suffered from the comics code, the awful tv show, the blight of the sidekick, etc., but he went through a lot of stages, and Miller's was, in IMO, a return to his dark roots, not a total rehaul or anything.

I think you also have to figure in the hype machine of the time. The industry was looking for figures to lionize in a period where comics, due to the skyrocketing values of the early titles, were increasingly seen (wrongly) as an investment; and I remember this one as severely hyped and spun and sold as 'rare', even as more and more were being printed. A legend on delivery.

Not that it isn't good or anything; it's probably his best. I just think its 'groundbreaking ness' is a little overblown, a product of the generation who grew up on it more than anything.
 
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