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Raphael

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NewYorkBuck, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. MCA

    MCA Well-Known Member

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    Hi Mr. Grayson,

    I really appreciate your informative posts.

    I know Mahon, Hitchcock & Beaman suits start from the mid 1000s GBP. I am curious about Morgan's price range, would you be so kind to share? Sorry if I missed it somewhere in the thread.

    I also have very high regards for Sig. Siviglia and his daughter, they're among the nicest people you can ever meet, and their work is outstanding.

    Regards.
     
  2. Kaga

    Kaga Senior member

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    Mr Grayson:

    If my memory serves me correctly, you recently were commendatory about Henry Poole.  Could you tell us more about your experiences with them?

    KAGA Takeshi
     
  3. lisapop

    lisapop Senior member

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    MCA, candidly, it's been so long since I first commissioned my first suit with Joe Morgan, I've lost track of the price, and what with the continued plunging dollar, I'm afraid to ask him to refresh my memory--See previous posts regarding psychological barriers [​IMG] I seem to recall Joe quoting me around $3,000, give or take, for a 2 pc. suit in high-grade Lesser cloth, which is pretty much the going price for his peer group. Grayson
     
  4. lisapop

    lisapop Senior member

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    Sorry, I don't have personal experience with Poole's, however they enjoy a stellar reputation here in America, based on others' feedback. I don't think you can go wrong with Poole's, however know what you're getting yourself into with any traveling tailor from any region of the world. I still think it's optimal to have a good, reliable tailor close to home. By the way, Poole Managing Director Simon Cundey is one of the real pillars of the English bespoke trade.

    Grayson
     
  5. bry2000

    bry2000 Senior member

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    If I can get a C&M bespoke suit made of Lessers for $3000 or less, I would do it. I fear that it will cost much more. Finding a good tailor has been one of the most frustrating and expensive experiences for me. After all the time, research and money spent on finding a bespoke tailor, I am still wearing my Hickey and Polo RTW suits. I still don't have a go-to tailor that I can reliably use and trust.
     
  6. lisapop

    lisapop Senior member

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    Bry, you and are are members of a most unenviable group.  I feel your pain, brother.  I've spent, er, wasted enough very hard-earned money to buy a decent house in certain parts of the country, and I'm not exaggerating.  I have, fortunately, found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow here in NYC, however I may need to find a pot of gold to continue to fund my vice.    
    Grayson
     
  7. Steve B.

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    Away for a week or so to find "Grayson" (lisapop=uriahheep)having a conversation with himself again.

    But at least the voices are informative, pleasant, and helpful to other members.
     
  8. uriahheep

    uriahheep Senior member

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    Es ist falsch. I was guilty of wondering if "Mitchell Murray" was "Grayson," but I most certainly am not "Grayson." On what basis do you allege that I'm "Grayson?" I posted this:
    on page 2, this:
    on page 3, and this:
    on page 3. Please don't hurl such accusations without sufficient basis. I ask you kindly. [​IMG]
     
  9. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    I had the same experience with New & Lingwood. Their shirt just totally missed the mark. They didn't even cut the neck to the correct size, leaving me with 16" (before shrinkage) when I stood there with their shirtmaker and told him my neck was a 16.25", which he then proceeded to confirm with the tape. The sleeves were also too short, the shirt was barely long enough for me to tuck into my trousers--basically a complete disaster.

    But like you said...luckily they allow you to order just one shirt.
     
  10. lisapop

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    Hey Bry, just a thought for you, and for others not absolutely requiring custom suits (And, God bless you one and all who don't)---You might want to consider the option of St. Andrews made-to-measure. My very first high-end sport coats were made by St. Andrews, the only ready-made jackets that have fit me well. Combined with the highest standards of quality workmanship, I hold SA in great regard. And, for what it's worth, so does a certain Argentinian tailor in NY who describes SA as being sewn with "a fine needle". My suggestion would be to try the program at the Davide Cenci, boutique on Madison Avenue, NYC, one of my very favorite stores anywhere. I believe they are having a MTM trunk show soon, offering excellent choices of English cloth. You'll receive personal attention from people who really know their business. Ask either for David Cenci himself or Antonio, an especially nice salesperson. Their in-house tailor, Pasquale, is excellent. If I can't work it out to have a suit made in Italy by Mario Caraceni or Mariano Rubinacci, I may try a St. Andrews suit.
    Grayson
     
  11. lisapop

    lisapop Senior member

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    MCA, Sig. Siviglia and Francesca are also endearingly customer-appreciative.  With the first 4 shirts I ordered, it turned out there was a slight misunderstanding on *my* part about one minor design aspect of the shirts---To my astonishment, they made 4 new shirts to replace those first 4 shirts, without my asking, simply because they wanted me to be completely happy.  They can't do enough for you as a customer.  Contrast this with Hilditch & Key, who made about 25 shirts for me, each with sleeves too long or too short (Their fault), and returning the "fixed" shirts (Brand new, never worn shirts, I might add), with hundreds of holes in the shoulders and cuffs where they repaired the sleeves, and telling me that after a few trips to the laundry the holes will fade.  Then, they told me to get lost, which I was happy to do. The Siviglias are a paragon whose business practices other firms should aspire to.
    Grayson
     
  12. Steve B.

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    And why would you be wondering if "mitchellmurray" was Grayson??? [​IMG]
     
  13. uriahheep

    uriahheep Senior member

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    Consider this: all of Grayson's posts concern Raphael and/or Siviglia. Isn't that as obvious as it gets? Read what mitchellmurray wrote most recently before he was banned. As I said, though it was not my place to do so, I accused the now-banned mitchellmurray of being Grayson. But I'm still convinced that mitchellmurray was Grayson. If you have doubts beyond this, that's plain ridiculous. Your forum is interesting, but now your accusations are souring the experience. Should I regret buying your book? And now, for the Foxx icon: [​IMG]
     
  14. AlanC

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    uriah seems almost certainly not to be Grayson. In fact, he's shown some hostility to Grayson in the past. Mr. Heep often offers some interesting inside the industry tidbits and insights. As long as lisapop behaves himself it's good to have him around. I believe RJMan has commented on how constructive Grayson can be when he's popping in from time to time as a "banned" member. I agree.
     
  15. MCA

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    Mr. Grayson, thanks for sharing. Sorry about your experience with the English company. Although there are some fairly good ones, H&K is essentially a factory; the work from an experienced and trained artisan is in an entirely different category. Your experience with maestro Siviglia doesn't really surprise me. Even though I am a difficult and demanding customer, our relationship is like that of very old friends.
    Cheers.
     
  16. Steve B.

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    Uriah:

    If you are indeed not "Grayson", then I most humbly and heartily apologize. I was going on information given to me within the last week by other members more familiar with various "Grayson" incarnations on AskAndy.

    Nevertheless, I have been light in my tone toward both you and lisapop...No harm is meant. Marc will continue to register under a plethora of names, and neither J. nor I care if he does so, as long as he follows the same rules everyone else does when they post.
     
  17. lisapop

    lisapop Senior member

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    MCA, given bespoke clothes are a luxury, not a necessity, it's just not acceptable to receive second-rate service or product, or both. The experience is that much more gratifying when the highest expectations of quality are shared *both* by the customer and the purveyor. It all comes down to integrity and pride in what you do in life.
    Grayson
     
  18. uriahheep

    uriahheep Senior member

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    Steve:
    Thank you. No hard feelings here.
     
  19. lisapop

    lisapop Senior member

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    I would also place the Marinella family on a similar pedestal for offering the highest level of quality neckties and service.
    Grayson
     
  20. Newbie2Customs

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    As a newcommer to the Custom Made suit world...the best tailor in NYC would be Raphael? Has anyone hear of David Lance?
     

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