Rant: Modern Burberry is Crap

[Nobilis Animus]

So what?

It bothers some who are interested in history.

 

[Panama]

And kids see that people who are racist, classist, and homophobic have traditionally worn and generally continue to wear what the laymen would identify as CM.

Huh? So why is Hugo Boss still one of the leading clothing companies in the world having won the Adolf Hitler tailoring award...

 

[Andy57]

It bothers some who are interested in history.

It's almost the literal definition of a bodice-ripper. I would hope these same people also grumble about Shakespear. Do they?

 

[Panama]

Back to the original post:

Burberry = fashion financial success story, leveraged their heritage to appeal to a new audience. One of my non-cm gen-x friends baulks at the idea of me wearing (classic) Burberry as he thinks of it only as 'chavy'. Chav is a British, derogatory term for new moneyed, try too hard, label forward, not sophisticated.

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...you get the idea.

Aquascutm = made me a dinner suit 20 years ago. Now seen as a second rate Burberry by the above clientele went bust in April 2020, don't know if the news reached cm graveyard?

Draw you own conclusions.

Wear what you dig.

Try to avoid terms that some people have found significantly oppressive.

I used the term 'chav' ....I'll get my coat.

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DAKS, London Tradition, Grenfell and Private White VC...

 

[Panama]

Derek is right. The Heritage line does differ in some details from the classic Burberry trench coat from decades ago, but modern Burberry trench coats are still Burberry trench coats. I have a coat that is now vintage, but that I bought new in the late '70s (or maybe early '80s—it was a long time ago). That coat is poly-cotton. New Burberry trenches are all-cotton, like the original all-cotton version. I'd like the trench to be a little longer, but it's still decent. And pretty damn waterproof, too. I have two of them. I actually prefer my new trench coats to my vintage one, especially for the climate in which I live (which is the climate that Burberry salespeople, back in the day, would recommend for an all-cotton coat, which recommending the poly-cotton version for the UK climate).

Burberry also makes excellent overcoats, but you have to look for them (or have your private client shopper look for you, you know how it is). I have a superb camel hair DB overcoat I bought a few years ago in London, a type I had looked for for years. I saw it in Burberry's window, and bought it the next day. I have a couple of navy overcoats, too. They are all a good length, well below the knee, and good quality fabrics. I doubt you can buy better off the rack. The same goes for women's overcoats—every now and then you see a piece that is stylish, elegant, and very high quality.

Maybe 98% of the stuff Burberry carries I wouldn't give house room to, but the assertion that kicked off this bizarre thread simply isn't true. They still make a lot of good stuff. It's just not the stuff the company tends to promote.

I am sure the overcoats from Crombie, Cordings, Gloverall, London Tradition and Private White VC et al are just as good.

 

[Panama]

By all accounts, Gen Z should be repudiating everything classic, because of its 'political connotations.'

Instead, we get this:

Cottagecore - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Academia Lives — on TikTok (Published 2020)

School may be out indefinitely, but on social media there’s a thriving subculture devoted to the aesthetic of all things scholarly.

www.nytimes.com

Regency-core: Is Bridgerton inspiring 2021's next big fashion trend?

410 Royal core ideas in 2023 | fashion outfits, fashion inspo outfits, fashion inspo

Feb 7, 2023 - Explore ana's board "Royal core" on Pinterest. See more ideas about fashion outfits, fashion inspo outfits, fashion inspo.

www.pinterest.se

All of which are hugely popular, once you get past the streetwear crowd - proving once more that not only is Gen Z more than capable of enjoying fashion without political smearings, but that the grouchy bloggers who think classic style consists of 'What-We-Wore circa 1967' are hilariously out of touch.

Oh another unbiased and non woke Wikipedia article...

 

[Andy57]

I am sure the overcoats from Crombie, Cordings, Gloverall, London Tradition and Private White VC et al are just as good.

Crombie is a classic, although I'm not sure if they are still in business. The physical shop closed sometime last year. I have a Cording's Covert coat, the canonical covert coat and it is very good indeed. Much more of a country style, of course. I don't know anything about Gloverall, but if I were in the market for a classic duffle coat I would start there. Never heard of London Tradition. I'm a fan of PWVC, but I don't think their products are of a similar type to the products I was referring to from Burberry. But if your point is that there are quite a number of quality, ready-to-wear, UK overcoat makers still in business, I would not disagree.

 

[Panama]

So what?

Truth duh?

 

[dieworkwear]

Oh another unbiased and non woke Wikipedia article...

Cottagecore is the only link on there that has any relevance to how young people are dressing nowadays. But the way the looks are expressed, especially for men, has nothing to do with CM. It would be more rightly considered SWD.

 

[Panama]

Crombie is a classic, although I'm not sure if they are still in business. The physical shop closed sometime last year. I have a Cording's Covert coat, the canonical covert coat and it is very good indeed. Much more of a country style, of course. I don't know anything about Gloverall, but if I were in the market for a classic duffle coat I would start there. Never heard of London Tradition. I'm a fan of PWVC, but I don't think their products are of a similar type to the products I was referring to from Burberry. But if your point is that there are quite a number of quality, ready-to-wear, UK overcoat makers still in business, I would not disagree.

I didn't realise that Crombie had gone into "suspension". While not in full Arthur Daley mode, Gloverall do do some long coats. True, they are not Chesterfields or Coverts...

 

[Panama]

It's almost the literal definition of a bodice-ripper. I would hope these same people also grumble about Shakespear. Do they?

Oh Bridgerton is a satire...

 

[Bronze Age Sartorial]

Sometimes I think this is why CM is dying. The kids don't wanna be associated with classism, racism, and homophobia. I threw up a little bit in my mouth reading this thread.

Amen. As I spend $500 on a pair of Yeezys made in a sweatshop, I take comfort in knowing my money is going to the good folks at Adidas instead of racist Spanish shoemakers.

 

[monkey66]

I didn't realise that Crombie had gone into "suspension". While not in full Arthur Daley mode, Gloverall do do some long coats. True, they are not Chesterfields or Coverts...


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Bold collar.

 

[Panama]

Bold collar.

It's not a Covert coat to wear with a Row suit, but more a Submariner jumper. I could see my Grandad wearing this on his Corvette during WW2.

 

[smittycl]

Bold collar.

and a hood?