Rant: Modern Burberry is Crap

[Phileas Fogg]

I was re-watching HBO John Adams miniseries, I was disappointed that the actor, Paul Giamatti was not in fact, the second US President John Adams.

It's like actors pretend to be other people and to enjoy it, one is required to have the capacity to buy into the idea that an actor is not literally a historical figure to be enjoyed or taken at face value.

I was as surprised when I found out that the 16th president was also a vampire Hunter. At least, according to the movie.

 

[TomTom]

They reference actual posts claiming that classic clothing is tainted by association with racism, classism, and homophobia, and that what we wear is a political statement instead of a style one.

If most of the forum can't bring themselves to wear blazers for fear of what others think, then they have bigger problems than clothing.

Yeah, those horrible racist homophobic ,people in their CM..Like Malcom X, MLK, Harvey Milk. Disgusting human beings

 

[TomTom]

Black people may have existed in small numbers in England, but is there evidence they were prevalent as upper class aristocrats? Or more importantly: was Queen Charlotte black? The answer to the latter is definitely not, whereas the answer to the former is very few, if any.

We know how Genghis Khan looked like, we know what Queen Charlotte looked like. This should inform our historical drama casting choices.

England was a largely ethnically homogenous society during much of its history. It is not currently, but was for thousands of years.

I am opposed to putting unnecessary white people in African or Asian society dramas; I am equally opposed to non-whites in European society dramas.

Here's another question I have: would you want a historical piece in the antebellum South to feature a curious number of black slave masters? Jefferson Davis played by a black person? I am not talking about the moral problems of the depiction, but just the historical idiocy of it. The moral problems would underscore the laughable ahistoricity, but it would only underscore, not be the basis of.

Well here in the UK we will soo have a glorious series which depicts Anne Boleyn as black..So I guess that wins the historical **** competition

 

[TomTom]

It's a strange occurrence that those that criticized the casting of Prince of Persia and Ghost in the Shell are welcoming the casting of Bridgerton.

No ..do not bring ghost in the Shell into this. As a massive Anime geek i can tell you that the character of the Major after she becomes a cyborg is never described as Japanese or European looking. IN fact that is the whole point of certain plotlines

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Press!

 

[corpseposeur]

Well here in the UK we will soo have a glorious series which depicts Anne Boleyn as black..So I guess that wins the historical **** competition

It sounds like the idea of Black actors portraying historical figures are a real thorn in your side.

 

[Panama]

It sounds like the idea of Black actors portraying historical figures are a real thorn in your side.

Tom Hardy has just been cast as Malcolm X . Whilst Charlize Theron is playing Martin Luther King. Such way out colour blind and gender casting, and they are not even American.

 

[JustPullHarder]

What about the greatest casting decision of the Western world? A Western European man as Jesus of Nazareth?

 

[Panama]

What about the greatest casting decision of the Western world? A Western European man as Jesus of Nazareth?

Do you know what an Aramean looks like? They are Caucasian.

 

[JustPullHarder]

Do you know what an Aramean looks like? They are Caucasian.

Of that time era? No, I don't think anybody does. But I think there is wide enough consensus to suggest that if a historical Jesus did exist he would have looked like the people that lived around that area. There has been work done by more qualified people to speculate what he would have looked like to say that it is not what most people would consider 'white'.

Caucasian in this case is too broad a categorisation and is a 18th century delineation between the Mongoloids (which includes both people from the Americas and from Asia) and Negroids. More practically, I don't think many white people in the US would identify with an Afghani, yet they are both 'Caucasian'.

On that measure, casting someone who has 1/4 sub-Saharan African ancestry (an example) as Queen Elizabeth II should be seen better than casting an actor of Slovakian-Swiss-Irish descent as Jesus in Jesus in passion of the Christ, no?

 

[Panama]

Of that time era? No, I don't think anybody does. But I think there is wide enough consensus to suggest that if a historical Jesus did exist he would have looked like the people that lived around that area. There has been work done by more qualified people to speculate what he would have looked like to say that it is not what most people would consider 'white'.

Caucasian in this case is too broad a categorisation and is a 18th century delineation between the Mongoloids (which includes both people from the Americas and from Asia) and Negroids. More practically, I don't think many white people in the US would identify with an Afghani, yet they are both 'Caucasian'.

On that measure, casting someone who has 1/4 sub-Saharan African ancestry (an example) as Queen Elizabeth II should be seen better than casting an actor of Slovakian-Swiss-Irish descent as Jesus in Jesus in passion of the Christ, no?

Have you been to Afghanistan? I saw blue eyed blondes whilst I was there.
But whatever, you have your prejudiced view as I have mine. Being semetic myself, and having worked in Palestine, Syria and Iraqi Kurdistan I know the Middle East relatively well having also studied it's history.

 

[Pax Britannica]

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