Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.
Has someone been focusing too much on aesthetics?
Why? There is actually a lot of truth to that picture/info.
there are some truth to it but i wouldnt say in general that someone who's cut and lean are weak.
It was less about being cut, and more about having no core strength. There's a difference between being lean and having a small waist.
Summer is fast approaching. I'd rather slim up and look better than keep my power lifter gut hanging out for the beach. I'm not a competing for anything, I workout to look good and be healthy. It also gives me something to work towards. I wanted to be strong so i did it, now I want to be slim and cut up again.
I agree that there's plenty of true things, namely that the strongman competition lifters are going to lift more than the bodybuilding competition lifters. The implication of posting that picture in the middle of this conversation, though, is that the participants are trying for one over the other. From previous posts in the thread, nobody is lifting with a bodybuilding regimen. Wanting to look better (for however you define better, be it more muscular, aesthetically proportioned, etc.) is, I would guess, why just about everyone starts exercising. Talking about training regimens that are extreme on either end (high definition lifting versus big muscle lifting) to be of no use is just a ploy. My ideal ground, as I'd bet most people here, is somewhere in between: strong enough for the things I like to do, and also look good with my clothes off.
this is going to be my program modified from 5/3/1
3 days a week
Mainlift 5x10 50% 1 RM
Abs isometric hold
HIIT on day 1 and 3 (15s hard, 45s easy x 5, 30 min easy bike, 30s hard 30 second easy x 5) - might use weight sled
probably some whey before and after. maybe some oats before
target time for day 1 and day 3 is 2 hours. day 2 is 1 hour
main lifts will be deadlift, bench, and OHP and will follow 5/3/1 mesocycle
main goal is to develop better bodyweight skills. I want a V-sit, planche, and press to handstand. I think part of that needs to be to get more lean hence the HIIT. The HIIT is also for aerobic conditioning
Diet will be high protein low carb low fat lots of seasonal veggies. some carbs on workout days. occasional beer. going to evaluate at 2 weeks and see if i need a cheat meal.
also going to walk in the morning for 30, 40 min on yohimbe, l-tyrosine, and caffeine
i kinda want to do oly lifts one day a week but might be too much. going to evaluate at 2 weeks
now somebody shit on my plan
counterpoint, thanks to eason:
if you have any remote interest in bodyweight training, buy the book "convict conditioning."
i already have it and like it a lot, but i feel like combining weights and bodyweight is more effective than bodyweight alone
actually i got it because you recommended it so highly
consider the body type of Lu
I'd be kinda hard pressed to say his midsection is blocky and this is one insanely strong dude.
seems to be a bit of a false dichotomy there.
Lol I can't tan right now few days of nice weather have ended, forever pale asian.
No fucks given if having a small waist reduces how functional I am. As much as I love squatting and getting PRs I don't really care how functional I am, don't really do anything physical outside of the gym, main concern is looking good. After going out with my zyzz level gym bro and loling as he told good looking girls that he wasn't going to talk to them because they weren't good looking enough for him to sleep with, I will disregard strength and try to maintain sub 10% bf year round. Still gonna squat multiples times a week.
No, not in college anymore. Do whatever you want, man. If doing prowler work makes you feel athletic, so be it, but answer me this: Why do you lift weights?
He seems to be an exception, though.
My only concern is that it's almost a full time job maintaining that physique. You rarely see any guys with body builder type physiques that are in there 40s because that shit just takes so much time and any self respecting man has bigger priorities. But you do see dudes still power lifting well into their 40s who look really good. It's just much easier to walk in; foam roll, do your 5/3/1 numbers, some accessory lifts, stretch and walk out under an hour. Not to mention diet, where mine has just been eat high quality food whenever I'm hungry.
Another thing which I have noticed is that most people dont have the time / discipline to do the bodybuilding thing correct but it is so deeply routed in what americans do as a workout. They spend 8 hours at a desk with their hands on a horizontal plane then they go to a gym and do the exact same motions (bench and curls) that they have been doing all day at work. So they cut corners and end up with a skinny body that they perceive as looking strong. My best example of this is Paul Walker in fast and the furious series, my friends and I re watched the series for fun and were constantly making comments that Paul Walker is the epitome of the american weekend warrior physique who perceives themselves as being jack and strong. It especially stands out because he is next to Vin Diesel and then THE ROCK, yet his character is still portrayed as equally tough and dangerous as the other guys.
Like a wife who doesn't need to see muscles to want shagging.
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