Random health and exercise thoughts

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  1. mrchariybrown

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    Well, that's unfortunate.
     
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    Here's all you need :devil:

    For real though hit me up when you're there. I used to live in Bergen County and go back every once in a while. We'll get sundubu in fort lee.
     
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    $150 a month? Not sure if srs, thats 5 times my current fees. Is that just if you want to do the phaggy time classes? Can you just join and do what you want? Will hit you up when I go though.
     
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    lol that shit cray
     
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    Widowmaker is fucking ridiculous on something like squats or deadlifts, but aren't you guys training to failure anyways? I train to failure on almost all lifts I do on every set.
     
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    you really shouldnt be training to failure

    http://jap.physiology.org/content/100/5/1647.full


    in addition ime f you're a beginner you might make good gains, but later on failure is going to hurt you

    but basically you're just training muscular endurance over strength and power
     
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    Most of the time I train to failure on my main lifts. The few exceptions are sessions where I'm working on correcting recent form breakdowns or when I've begun a new cycle, after I've gotten to a new max or when I'm coming off a meet (usually the first two-three weeks).

    I don't train to failure, but very close to it, on accessory lifts.
     
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    I am in awe at how cheap Oreos are.

    Train to failure? No, I don't train squats, deads, bench, or assistance to failure. I will take the press to failure, although I can't honestly say there is any point to that. Pull ups bump into failure.

    I'm no windowmaker scientist, but I imagine it doesn't hurt to maintain a bit more conditioning than necessary for purely 1rm lifting to remove any glass ceilings on your 5 or 8rm's. Keeping your breath and wits about you on 5 and 8rm's goes a long way towards your 1rm's.

    edit: Failure has more than one definition and the lift it is applied to makes a big difference.
     
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    The rep range from that study for the RF group is much higher than I fail at. I train to failure at around 8-12 reps per set, if I hit 8 on my first set then the next time I weight up. Which is why this:

    Doesn't apply to me.

    I don't do squats (5x5x10) to failure but I do take bench to failure (or, rather, one rep from complete failure).

    Agreed.
     
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    it still applies to you because by training 8-12 instead of 5-6 you're training more for endurance over strength and power

    but it sounds like you've thought it through so no biggie
     
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    I don't think this really is as discrete as you are implying with this statement, especially in such a small differential in comparative rep ranges. 20-30 is definitely not power/strength, but 8?
     
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    This statement does not hold true all the time. Depends on the lift and the lifter.
     
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    The statement does hold true all the time as there isn't an example of a lift where fewer reps places more emphasis on endurance than more reps. Prove me wrong with a mind blown, though.
     
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    ^really? so in your opinion depending on the person 8-12 could produce more strength and power gains than 5-6 and 5-6 produce more endurance gains than 8-12?

    +1 to what dbgmm said


    yeah def not discrete as it's probably a continuum of things (which is why i said more), but you have to draw the line of low rep and med rep somewhere

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12436270

    their low rep was 3-5, mid rep was 9-11, high rep was 20-28
     
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