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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. APK

    APK Senior member

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    Apple pie spice and a lot of ice make great things happen when they meet vanilla whey.
     
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    Apple pie spice and a lot of ice make great things happen when they meet vanilla whey.


    Also switching over to a mostly meat and greens diet for a couple of weeks. I've found myself a little to reliant on whey and I was eating a stupidly low amount of veggies for someone who's cutting.


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  3. APK

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    Mostly, man, mostly!

    I'm still having one whey shake a day and then what seems like pounds of meat and vegetables the rest of the time.
     
  4. jarude

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    I've been using redpointfitness.com lately, and it's worth the 17$/month - for a couple months, at least.

    You plug in your calorie numbers for the particular diet you want, and it spits out every number you need - no thinking required! Lots of nifty workouts on there too, and handy support from the admins. It's definitely "giving you a fish" as opposed to "teaching you how to fish" but if you aren't worried about the "why" and only the "how," its a great resource. I've been on the metabolic diet and I've been shedding fat pretty handily at maintenance while every single lift is improving.

    I swear I have no vested interest in this company, but give the 7 day trial a whirl and see how it helps you.
     
  5. Lone Wolf

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    I've joined roughly a dozen gyms over the years and I bet I've seen a woman with an obvious eating disorder in half of them, just during the times that I've been there (I've always worked out at about the same time). I can think of at least four in the last four gyms I've gone to.

    Came to that realization this morning when I saw the one in my current gym. I can't say that I see her every day, but generally she'll come in and hit the treadmill and then the machines during the time I'm there. Attractive enough face but the body appears to be little more than skin and tendons over bone. Not quite concentration camp survivor, but definitely like someone on the losing side of a debilitating illness. Which she probably is.
     
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    I've joined roughly a dozen gyms over the years and I bet I've seen a woman with an obvious eating disorder in half of them, just during the times that I've been there (I've always worked out at about the same time). I can think of at least four in the last four gyms I've gone to.

    Came to that realization this morning when I saw the one in my current gym. I can't say that I see her every day, but generally she'll come in and hit the treadmill and then the machines during the time I'm there. Attractive enough face but the body appears to be little more than skin and tendons over bone. Not quite concentration camp survivor, but definitely like someone on the losing side of a debilitating illness. Which she probably is.


    Yeah... I've been wondering the same thing about this girl at my campus gym. She's there about every morning (even earlier than me, which is pretty friggin early), doing 30 minutes on the stationary bike and by the looks of her, she's pretty anorectic.

    It could be that she's having some other health issues and I'm just being ignorant and foolish by labeling that as ana, but I'm not nearly intrusive enough to talk to her about that. Makes me sad sometimes, if that really is the case; ED's are crappy.
     
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    Yeah... I've been wondering the same thing about this girl at my campus gym. She's there about every morning (even earlier than me, which is pretty friggin early), doing 30 minutes on the stationary bike and by the looks of her, she's pretty anorectic.

    It could be that she's having some other health issues and I'm just being ignorant and foolish by labeling that as ana, but I'm not nearly intrusive enough to talk to her about that. Makes me sad sometimes, if that really is the case; ED's are crappy.


    But of course there are the eating disorders that make up about 75% of gym attendees...

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    I've joined roughly a dozen gyms over the years and I bet I've seen a woman with an obvious eating disorder in half of them, just during the times that I've been there (I've always worked out at about the same time). I can think of at least four in the last four gyms I've gone to.

    Came to that realization this morning when I saw the one in my current gym. I can't say that I see her every day, but generally she'll come in and hit the treadmill and then the machines during the time I'm there. Attractive enough face but the body appears to be little more than skin and tendons over bone. Not quite concentration camp survivor, but definitely like someone on the losing side of a debilitating illness. Which she probably is.



    Yeah i'm pretty sure if you're a staff at a gym you'll see at least 3 anorexic people a day, depending on gym size.


    It's not as simple as stopping an druggie from shooting up; it's a quantity thing. What i mean by that is that you can't just stop them from exercising, cos then they will cut out all the eating as well. They need to have some counselling to slowly reverse their mental illness.

    Pretty scary though. I never go to the cardio area of my gym, partly because i prefer running outside, but also because it's pretty disturbing to see these people.
     
  9. db_ggmm

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    I have become more sensitive to people who are on the extra skinny side. I think it is a result of my perceptions of healthy changing through pics, vids, and reading exercise sites. I'm a thin guy myself, but that has always been on the side of skinny fat. I have never been all tendons and bone, so even when I was underweight (under muscled) I never had "that look" of anorexia.

    I am definitely aware of certain, difficult to define, physical details which make me think someone needs to eat more / lift more. Concave surfaces around elbows, knees, neck, and cheek bones are bad signs.
     
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    I observe one girl who has an unfortunate set of kankles. She is very pretty, but just cannot shake them. It's her only flaw.

    She is in there every day - any time I am there. Just running her ass off, stair master, elliptical, stepper, etc. She has gotten so incredibly thin that her face looks unhealthy and sunken. Her chest is con-caved. She looks overworked and malnourished.

    All just in an effort to get rid of her cankles. Which aren't going anywhere. That is bone, not fat.

    She is doing serious harm to herself in a futile effort to rid herself of them.

    Agreed @ observing people in the cardio section. Bone thin, sweating, doing 45-1hr cardio routines. Like there is any fat left to burn. Most often girls, but guys are not exempt from this.
     
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    I observe one girl who has an unfortunate set of kankles. She is very pretty, but just cannot shake them. It's her only flaw.

    She is in there every day - any time I am there. Just running her ass off, stair master, elliptical, stepper, etc. She has gotten so incredibly thin that her face looks unhealthy and sunken. Her chest is con-caved. She looks overworked and malnourished.

    All just in an effort to get rid of her cankles. Which aren't going anywhere. That is bone, not fat.

    She is doing serious harm to herself in a futile effort to rid herself of them.

    Agreed @ observing people in the cardio section. Bone thin, sweating, doing 45-1hr cardio routines. Like there is any fat left to burn. Most often girls, but guys are not exempt from this.

    Ha, strange. I don't see too many frighteningly emaciated folks, but I do see beautiful curvy women doing cardio. That makes me more sad than someone w/a body image disorder
     
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    Ha, strange. I don't see too many frighteningly emaciated folks, but I do see beautiful curvy women doing cardio. That makes me more sad than someone w/a body image disorder
    Why would a beautiful woman doing cardio make you sad? [​IMG]
     
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    Why would a beautiful woman doing cardio make you sad? [​IMG]

    Because girls with asses think that they're fat. I'm not talking about chubby girls with ass, but simply girls with ass.
     
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    Added burpees to my calisthenics today. I never felt so good leaving the gym but just doing 4 was pretty hard, hoping to eventually move up to 10 per set.

    5k jog
    10 pull ups > 10 - 12 pushups > 4 burpees x 4
    5 weighted pull ups > 10 -12 Push ups > 10 Pull ups > 4 burpees x 4
    10 dips on dip bar > 10 Push ups > 4 burpees x 2

    Next week I'm starting swim class so I can learn how to swim with good technique. Anyone swim on a regular? Part of a cut?
     
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    Swimming regularly will massacre weighlifting progress, especially with lifts involving your shoulders. A few times a week should be fine, but if you're a beginner your strokes won't be efficient enough for you to get in a good long swim before you're pooched.
     
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    I'd almost forgotten how great it feels to train in a calorie surplus... crazy energy and the recovery is muuuuch faster. I'm currently running a 4 wk mini-bulk, raised my cals to 500-600 above maintenance and shuffling carbs around my workout. Gotta see where I'm at four weeks from now and adjust accordingly... I mean, I'll probably lose some definition, that's for sure, but hoping to get at least some strength gains.
     
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    Because girls with asses think that they're fat. I'm not talking about chubby girls with ass, but simply girls with ass.
    Ok, but if she doesn't do cardio she will get fat. Maybe she was before and doesn't want to get back there. Who knows?
     
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    Wrapping up approx wave 6 of Wendler531 this month. The closest lift to failing is the overhead press (no surprise), but I'm not sure when it will finally crap out. Now that I think about it, I should gather a record of my original lifts, damn!

    I have not had big gains because of the 10% underestimate to start the program (which I extra emphasized) so it took me 3 months to get back to my starting numbers. What I am doing right now, though, is lifting my previous maxes for 8-10 reps instead of 3. Maybe I will test my 3RM's during this next deload week.

    This program definitely works for me, although I feel I have my own needs which dictated a slightly different take on the assistance work (n b4 "not the program" - Wendler says you can do whatever assistance work is good for you).

    I lean towards 3x8 for assistance work. I use 3x8 because I need to keep my endurance up for the max effort sets and I still want to tax my system enough to stimulate additional muscle growth. The 5x10's recommended in the program just feel far too much like pure endurance work and cardio for me.

    If the day ever comes that I want to lose 10 lbs, I will go 5x10, but my hunch is that the book emphasizes this rep scheme because it is assumed the average guy reading it is overweight, not underweight. 5x10 causes my body experience that slightly sickly feeling of under fed workouts, if you know what I mean.

    I also do the deload weeks differently lately. I seem to forget how heavy the bar is very quickly, so I don't give my body time to forget. I cut out all assistance work, but I will do the previous week again for the major lifts (the 531 week). As I'm currently busting out 6 reps on average for the "1" set, I'll split that up in to 3x2 or 2x3 to avoid the crushing fatigue.

    I also eat ice cream and hamburger every day that I work out and haven't gain a pound, although I'm trying.
     
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    db_ggmm: what were your maxes when you started 5/3/1, and what are they now? I did 5/3/1 for half a year and made some excellent progress, curious to see what others get out of it

    indesertum: sore forearms after cleans makes it sound like your pull with your arms, which you ideally shouldn't really use at all
     
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    I'm doing 5/3/1 as well. It's a snails pace as far as getting your #'s up (and now especially because my schedule is really erratic) but i like how you can tailor assistance work to what you like. For it me, it's a 4-day split with very specific #'s for the big lifts and then my regular 3x8 bodybuilding routine for the rest of the workout. Random thought/brag of the day: I hooked up with a girl this weekend who gushed about how great my abs and arms were. In fact, I've been getting a ton of compliments on my arms. It's funny that they're pretty much the bottom of the list of things i prioritize (3x8 curls at the end of my deadlift workout, maybe a few sets of tricep presses to round out a bench workout). Then again, I've had more and more girls grab my legs since I've started squatting all the time. No compliments on my firm and toned butt from dead-lifts though [​IMG]
     

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