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Random health and exercise thoughts

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by Eason, Dec 20, 2009.

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  1. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I wish I could tell you there's a trick but there isn't. When I started at 120, I stuffed my face with food day in and day out. It got to a point where I was throwing up food in my mouth mid-meals and swallowing it back down with water almost daily. Even now, if I want to eat clean it's a struggle to get through some of my meals occasionally.

    I always told myself this in my head when I felt like I couldn't eat anymore - "if I don't eat this then I won't grow and the work I put in the gym was all for nothing"
     
  2. Cool The Kid

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    Cool guys thanks for the advice.

    Something to keep in mind- I'm in a cut, so adding stuff in is not really an option till mid October. And I've been road cycling about 30-50 miles a week which prob doesn't help.

    My legs have def got weak since I started cutting ~4 months ago... I remember about 2 months ago being confused by my legs giving out coming off the ground. I guess my body has adapted to take the load off my legs. Squat is down a bit too.

    But I will keep all this in mind when I get back in bulk mode. 4 plates should be no problem.
     
  3. MoreFire

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    Then why not do Romanian deadlifts and focus more on the lower back?
    Or just reduce weight...
    Dieting or biking is not an excuse for not doing the exercises properly :-\
     
  4. mrchariybrown

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    Nailed it right on the head.
     
  5. Cool The Kid

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    I'm just afraid of taking longer to get back up to fighting weight once I'm back on my cut. I was doing 6x385 in April, now I'm only down to 6x365. I guess I will drop the weight to a level my legs can handle, just kinda sucks when I'm able to get more weight off the ground.
     
  6. mrchariybrown

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    Like you said, you are cutting weight and it only makes sense that you're weaker than if you weren't.
     
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    Thanks for the advice (and the rest of you too)

    Next month once I'm off the creatine, I'll likely have to adjust down. But for right now, I'm kicking ass. I did my 3x5 squats last night breaking a new personal record on weight, and I almost did 2 more sets just because I felt like I could. Of course, I didn't though.

    I've been doing the whole milk thing as a post workout. That and a hand full of liver tabs.

     
  8. fuji

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    Gonna switch to low bar squats next week after I finish my 531 cycle. What kind of weight should I use? Same as my front squat? Could my low bar back squat be weaker then my front squat even if I only go to parallel where with my front squat I go ass to grass. I was training with some kid today and I felt like a massive pussy when he put an extra set of 10kg on the bar and back squatted the bar after I front squatted it.
     
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    That's sad if he's only back squatting 10kg more than you front squat.
    Usually a person can front squat 65-75% of their back squat.

    I would start light with the low bar, just to get a feel of it. If you've been doing a lot of front squatting, your back squat will tend to be weaker.
     
  10. javyn

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    I was under the impression you'd be able to lift far more lowbar vs. front b/c of the stress taken off your quads.
     
  11. stinger70

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    Found out today that the (third!) new gym to open in my town this year has squat racks, power racks, proper bench presses, etc. It's a fitness oriented gym, but has no pool/sauna etc so they are pre sellign memberships at £12 per month with no contract! So thats a 4 quid a month saving on my current gym but with all the equipment i need + car parking. Could be really busy though at that price. Hopefully nobody else will squat or deadlift, and the only battle will be trying to get on a bench.
     
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    This is generally true, but front squatting doesn't do a whole lot to improve your back squat. So if you haven't been doing much back squatting its generally a good idea to start off slow.
     
  13. Lagrangian

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    I guess that depends a lot on your hamstring strength - low bar squats by definition hit the hamstrings and hip flexors pretty hard while front squats have the quads as prime movers. I'm guessing though your back squat won't be less than the fs. If you're absolutely clueless, then just test the waters on the first day and go for a 2RM or 1RM to see where you're at.

    And to low bar vs. front, the difference there has a lot to do with relative quad/hammie strength (and ofc the back angle). A lot of oly guys I know have pretty ridiculous front and oly squats, but probably compared to those their low bar numbers might not be as great as could be expected due to the fact that OL emphasizes quad strength.

    Apropos, I find high bar pretty awesome thus far, numbers aren't too far off my old PRs.
     
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    In my limited experience, I've noticed the squat rack gets the most use as a pullup bar, and even then, not much. I think most dudes would much rather use the leg press instead.

     
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    I have good hamstring strength from good mornings and RDLs so I doubt i have an imbalance in strength so I think ill just start out with my front squat weight. I probably have really weak glutes though so I don't know if that will effect it. I can do the powerlifting low bar form, i've just never tried it with any weight. He's like 30lb less then me so 10kg either side more is pretty impressive. I could try high bar first, might be an easier transition to make from front squat. I'll be using a belt for all my presses, squats and deads next week so that should help a bit too.
     
  16. theom-

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    Did you end up getting that inzer belt? Gonna ask for one for my birthday.
     
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    Nuts are also great for adding mass. One cup of nuts a day would add about 800 calories. You can buy mixed roasted nuts in bulk at most supermarkets, or Costco/Sam's. They're low carb, decent protein, high fat, and lots of iron which is extremely important--oxygen binds to iron in your blood stream to get carried to the cells for ATP conversion. I can actually feel when my iron is low, especially in higher rep sets I'll lose explosiveness more quickly.

    Also, yesterday when the earthquake hit DC I was in between squat sets at 325. Could have been dangerous if I had had the bar on my back when that thing hit.
     
  18. fuji

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    No, I'm too poor so I bought a golds gym one for $20, which is shit because its not even around the front, but I'm too poor to afford the inzer right now. Also I only want it for lower back stability for presses really. I've used it before, its the one my gym had before it was stolen. Ill get the inzer one when I get moneys.
     
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    Strive to increase the caloric density of the foods you are eating. I'm light, too, but if you are underweight according to BMI, than you really need to consider your approach to food as dysfunctional.
     
  20. Lagrangian

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    It may if you're squatting high bar oly..
    Then again since the loading is usually much lower in the fs it's probably that the back squat drives the fs, so I think you're right on the money.
     

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